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to many wharrams rest in a boatyard


to many wharrams rest in a boatyard

we spend the last 12 month sailing from the Philippines to Thailand. we meet a lot of wharrams on the way.... sadly, 80 % of all this boat are in pieces and resting on the hard.

we saw in thailand: 1 pahi 50, 2 tiki30+, 2 tiki46, 1 tiki21and in the Philippines 1 tiki38 out of order...

 we spoke to some (new) owners, the boats where not old, 5-7 years old but often for many month "out off order..."

what is it with this wharram community? do we like building, fixing, playing with new construction ideas  then sailing...? i find this quite depressing.

i hope you are not getting lost in details and will sail on the ocean soon..

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Looking for Pahi 42 or Tiki 38 to love

I am an owner of a restored Tiki 26 and now looking for a bigger project that my Girlfriend and I can restore and love and live aboard and travel. Anyone know of anything? Living in Alderney-Channel…Continue

Tags: 42, Pahi, 38, Tiki

Started by Barefoot Boat Bums Sep 27, 2016.

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Comment by Shaun on May 25, 2013 at 3:49pm

Indeed, to find a dream that has lost its way and resurrect it to its full potential is, at least to me, a very worth while horizon to chase.

We found our little Hinemoa, Mystery, forlorn and lost, I spent 6 to 9 months perhaps in the hands on rebuild and probably more than practicable in dollars, but the real value was in the fact that a dream was brought back from the brink of a dismal ending, back to life and her soul is now full and beautiful.

In fact, admitting be selfish, I am looking for another to bring back from the brink because the satisfaction was so profound and intense I really want to be there again!

Keep a weather eye out for the lost and sorrowed, they are not ugly, they are not forgotten, they are merely waiting for a second season of life!

Comment by Robert Lusignan on May 25, 2013 at 10:20pm

Mmmm...a poet you are, young Jedi...Where are you now with your pretty Hinemoa?

Comment by Galway Bay on May 26, 2013 at 3:06am

I was here myself a few years ago with my own boat. Life had left me with no time to sail it and I had to leave the boat half-way through "improvements". Only the cutting off and throwing away phase had been completed ! It was in a very sad state for a while. Probably the high cost of skips was a factor in saving it at one stage ! However everything comes to he who waits and I do feel great satisfaction from the restoration / improvements.

Comment by Shaun on May 27, 2013 at 6:05pm
Robert, we are sadly separated by about half the planet, she in Tin Can Bay, Aus. and me in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
The world turned and kept us apart so I am truly living vicariously through the words of those who post of their journeys and adventures here about.
In the words of a great rascal "such is life"!
Comment by Herr Kaluent on June 7, 2013 at 3:24pm

I am a new dude to this forum, but this is my third in the yachting world of forums.  I am always finding very interesting topics that engage my interest.  The question of all these boats lying around in various states of dilapidation has always been a matter of concern and interest to me.  On a local river, we have a really nice 52' galvanised steel ketch on a tidal mooring, covered in algae and 'sky-rat' guano, which is totally lacking in TLC...  Why?  Give it to ME!!!  I'll fix her up, why do they [?] always leave these boats to entropy?

There are many factors that we need to take into consideration since the so called 'hey day' of cruising:  

1.  More and more countries are in flux and if not are installing complicated bureaucratic measures to make sailing to foreign ports difficult or expensive [...or dangerous!].

2.  The lack of 'young blood' due to many demographic factors [mostly the need to acquire what society dictates they should be aspiring to acquire...], lack of funds, lack of free spirit etc...

A friend of mine owns a 36' steel sloop.  He bought her around a year ago for quite a bargain, she was in a 'tired' state when he discovered her, belonging to a widow who was, along with her late husband planning a circumnavigation in her.  A very sad story, which I am sure is more commonplace than we may think...  My friend lived aboard her when he was not doing sea-duty with a major NGO, this was on Exeter canal.  He paid his mooring dues regularly, was helpful and considerate to everyone, but last weekend he decided to take her for a shakedown sail to Fowey to meet up with MV 'Arctic Sunrise' [his ship].  What he hoped was just going to be a few days away from his home, turned out to be a very anxious time.  Because the Exeter City Council decided to evict him from the canal [because he moved...].  

This society is to blame.  The government [UK and regional] does not want people to live aboard boats, COZ ITS NOT NORMAL!!!

We really do need to start lobbying our govts, to re-address our right to live on our boats and to sail whenever we like and return to our 'spot'.

This whole affair has really made me angry, my friends life has now taken a surreal turn negative, all because of some petty [non sailing] bureaucrat, in some boring Exeter office, wielding that 'bit of power' that they like to flex every now and then.... Tarts...

Just points to ponder... 


Comment by Herr Kaluent on June 7, 2013 at 3:41pm

...Actually I havn't finished yet...  

So that leaves as matey said elsewhere here, the retirees...  Well I just gave a story about one scenario [the sea widow...], many of these forgotten beauties are just too much for some people to cope with in the end.

The widow was offered considerable sums for her yacht, but in the end she chose to sell it to my friend, because she knew he would put the love back into the vessel... Bless her.

Perhaps with people being a little less selfish and understanding that their boats are going to disintegrate, should consider selling them on down - cheap - to a new generation.  

I am 54, I don't own my home.  I don't want to buy into that model.  I just want a yacht [pref a Wharram...] on which I can finish of my life doing research and sailing the world...  Got no kids, dogs, horses or cats, just me and maybe some similar thinking female crew member...  sigh... 

Comment by alex on June 19, 2013 at 7:22am

i found a list of wharram's that surely needs to be updated but could be a good starting point for someone looking to buy a wharram (and willing to make a research to find a bargain maybe)  that is not listed on any website for sell:


Comment by Melissa Jenks on July 1, 2013 at 3:21pm

Robert, did you make it to see any of these Thai derelict Wharrams?  I'm planning a trip in January and I may go hunt some down myself!

Comment by Robert Lusignan on July 1, 2013 at 4:58pm

Melissa,  Not yet!  Our plans WERE to go to Thailand from Oct. 15th to Dec. 15th, but that would set us back from actually picking up a Wharram.  Take lots of pictures, and send us any info on any Narai Mk IVs that you see! 

Comment by Andrew Korobov on August 2, 2013 at 1:44pm

I would love to take from someone's hand unfinished (or finished need restoration) project of 26'-32' wharram. I'm in Philadelphia, PA.


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