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Small Pahi Group

Anything and everything related to owning / sailing / building smaller PAHI up to and including PAHI 31.

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Latest Activity: Nov 30, 2019

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PAHI 31 REVIEW 2 Replies

  The Pahi range was developed in the mid / late 70's. The Classic range was pretty much complete and JWD were looking for a new avenue to explore designwise.  Apart from the styling differences…Continue

Started by Galway Bay. Last reply by Benoit May 11, 2016.

Introduce yourself ? 8 Replies

I thought it might be a good idea if members of the group told us a little about themselves, their boats and their travels, Pahi owners especially but all welcome,Continue

Started by Galway Bay. Last reply by Greg Russell Jan 16, 2015.

INTRODUCTION 1 Reply

   I am starting this group because of the wonderful response I got to posting some photos of my Pahi 31. I did not think there was so high a level of interest ih these designs.Long overdue perhaps ?…Continue

Started by Galway Bay. Last reply by john elwyn kimber Aug 8, 2014.

Modifications 11 Replies

I think it would be helpful to any new builders to have this information gathered together in one place.My own mods. are1.  3 x crossbeams  [ I section ]2.  1 x daggerboard  [ + much deeper ]3.  1 x…Continue

Started by Galway Bay. Last reply by Galway Bay Nov 12, 2013.

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Comment by Jeremy Walker on March 2, 2013 at 12:18pm

Small multis with bi lateral asymmetry certainly meet my own minimalist needs, which require almost complete independence. Had I been more of a communal type person I probably would have followed the Wharram way quite happily instead of looking long and hard for an alternative.

James’ Pahi designs are well suited to group input and perhaps this is why a minimalist aspect such as overall dimension has not been part of the mix.  When a canoe hull is small, then cabin accommodation for more than one person is near impossible, especially if Wharram Pahi design and lines are adhered to.

 

Comment by Alex on March 2, 2013 at 1:37pm
I like the pahi/canoe hulls but agree that in smaller sizes, they are limited.
I then thought of a deck pod. My fantasy boat is a catamaran that then converts to a proa configuration by removing several beams,a hull and rotating the pod 90 deg and adding an ama.
I can dream can't I.......?
Oh I also want it to be cheap, quick and easy to build. : )
Comment by Alex on March 26, 2013 at 4:34pm
Found a funny pic of a micro "pahi" but can't see how to put it up here.....
(Don't see anything like you told Jeremy). Maybe because am on iPad?
Will put in general photos section.
Comment by Kevin Hutchinson on June 30, 2013 at 8:29pm

I saw a Pahi 31 one for the first time last May at the Wharram Hui in the Keys.They sea

m to be very rare on the East coast of the US. I know of one in the Bahamas doing camping charters,  I saw  Greg's boat in The Florida Keys is there any others in the US?

Comment by Galway Bay on July 2, 2013 at 5:14pm

My plans are from about '87 and my sail no. is 32. I wonder how many were ever built ? I remember James in an article "guessing" that about 1/3 of plans sold eventually turn into boats.

Comment by Shaun on July 7, 2013 at 12:07pm
They do indeed seem rare, I looked at one for sale in Oz and am still searching, however here in New Mexico they are even more rare, up there with hens teeth and rocking horse doody!
If anybody knows of a very cheap, ready to resurrect type Pahi 31/Tanenui 28 please let me know.
Comment by Galway Bay on July 14, 2013 at 3:23am

I am reliably informed that epoxy saturated rocking-horse doody is the composite material of the future.

Comment by Shaun on July 16, 2013 at 5:57pm
Absolutely, in fact it has been described as the ultimate in green boat building composites. Keeps the paddock cropped and provides an inexhaustible supply of chop strand!
Comment by john elwyn kimber on September 10, 2014 at 10:31am

Agree with Galway Bay, but nowhere more so than with the Tikiroa design. Generally because the boat is less idiot-proof than the Tiki 26 and probably better suited to spartan adventures in [tropical]ocean-conditions than short steep seas or places where you have to tack a lot.

There was the unladen Austrian Tikiroa that was sailed over in squall-conditions, presumably through deliberately 'pushing the envelope'; there is the short waterline-length and long-keeler type canoe hull form; for the technically-minded the speed/stability formulae from Kelsall/Shuttleworth and the like will reveal that the Tikiroa is more tender than the Tiki 26, especially with the original beam; and so on, all contriving to give the boat a poor reputation.

 But hey, second-hand they can cost half the price of a Tiki 26 in the same condition. And properly set up, even with the cutter-rig, there are owners who say they sail just fine. Arguably the cabin-spaces are more versatile than on the Tiki - and so on.

Definitely worth a look? I think so. Even possibly worth building, though I think the design would do well to be a couple of feet longer to get a longer LWL, and it needs a redesigned cockpit. It still seems a heck of a lot of boat for maybe no more than £10K.


Comment by Krishna of the Sea on September 15, 2016 at 10:50am
Ciao! Very nice to meet you, I am looking to a Pahi 26 to buy... Do you know anybody that can give me some info please? Thanks

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