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Approx weight of Tiki 38 beams
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What is the approx weight of the Tiki 38 beams? I haven't any idea and was curious as to the weight of them.Cheers, AllenContinue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Budget Boater Aug 27, 2016.

Single Yamaha T9.9 powerful enough for Tangaroa?
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 Would a single Yamaha T9.9 High Thrust be big enough for a Tangaroa fully laden? Not for maneuvering in tight places where two engines would be helpful for tight turns and such, but for general…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by boatsmith Nov 14, 2016.

Height of sails foot above deck on Tiki 38?

How high above the deck are the bottom of the sails on the Tiki 38?How much taller could the masts the be built taller to raise the sails above the deck without increasing the leverage of the sails…Continue

Started Aug 8, 2016

Tangaroa Wingsail Schooner & Sloop pros & cons?
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On a Tangaroa Mk 4 with the Wingsail, what are the pros and cons or advantages and disadvantages of the Schooner and Sloop rigs?Maybe the Sloop can sail closer to the wind? The Schooner can be…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Rogerio Martin Aug 26, 2016.

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boatsmith replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Single Yamaha T9.9 powerful enough for Tangaroa?
"wow Bill! That does suck! real sorry to hear that."
Nov 14, 2016
Bill Ludeman replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Single Yamaha T9.9 powerful enough for Tangaroa?
"I can directly  address this. I own a Tangaroa mk1 that has had several of these yamaha 9.9 high thrust outboards. The original builder supplied two extras when I purchased the boat plus the one that was on it.    I bought my boat in…"
Oct 26, 2016
Allen Bosely replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Single Yamaha T9.9 powerful enough for Tangaroa?
"Wow thanks Mike. Thatʻs pretty good performance from a 9.9 hp!  As a side note I decided to go ahead and build the Narai Mk IV instead of the Tangaroa. I have the plans and the Narai is what really what makes my heart go pitter patter!…"
Oct 24, 2016
Mike Haromy replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Single Yamaha T9.9 powerful enough for Tangaroa?
"So after a break in,  at full throttle, no masts, weighing 13-14000 lbs we did 4.5 kts on just the yamaha 9.9 without lifting the other motor out of the water.  "
Oct 22, 2016
Allen Bosely replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Deadeyes for dyneema rig tension?
" Iʻm having the deadeyes made by Zephyrwerks the Sheave Factory,  zephyrwerks.com. Using his rope stropped block kits, with Locust for the shells and acetal sheaves with oilite self lubricating bronze sleeve bearings and SS pins for…"
Oct 11, 2016
Allen Bosely replied to Christian Linder's discussion Sticky Epoxy
"I'm not expert here, but from what I've read, you need to scrape all the unhardened epoxy off, wash it down with white vinegar to remove all the unhardened epoxy residue then reapply new epoxy. Also, don't forget you need to coat all…"
Sep 8, 2016
Allen Bosely replied to Christian Linder's discussion Boat finish.. Fibreglassing?
" I agree with Paul, a layer of glass cloth really makes a big improvement on the longevity & durability of the exterior.  Just food for thought, there is a type of cloth made from polyester called Xynole. It is extremely abrasion and…"
Sep 6, 2016
Budget Boater replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Approx weight of Tiki 38 beams
"Terribly slow right now...for many reasons."
Aug 27, 2016
Allen Bosely replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Approx weight of Tiki 38 beams
"Thanks BB. My health issue has improved markedly so am able to to build the Narai now. Will start building in couple months, needless to say I am a bit over the top happy about this turn of events! Reason I asked about the weight of T38 beams is Iʻm…"
Aug 27, 2016
Rogerio Martin replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Tangaroa Wingsail Schooner & Sloop pros & cons?
"Yes, my tiki 30 Works much better in 15 knots then 20+"
Aug 26, 2016
Brett Parker replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Tangaroa Wingsail Schooner & Sloop pros & cons?
"Hi Rogerio   A little more speed would have been good to help to punch through it a bit better but not too much! My point was that after a certain wind speed the windage of the boat is a dominating  factor. I definitely want to be taking…"
Aug 25, 2016
Rogerio Martin replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Tangaroa Wingsail Schooner & Sloop pros & cons?
"Brett, in 45 knots you are in "survival navigation" or in secure navigation, don't need more speed . Take care with your boat, man."
Aug 25, 2016
Budget Boater replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Approx weight of Tiki 38 beams
" 300 lbs"
Aug 25, 2016
dennis schneider replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Tangaroa Wingsail Schooner & Sloop pros & cons?
"Hi again Allan;; I see that I did not address your preference for a schooner rig. I have no experience with a schooner rig, but I have read that the aft mast/sail doesnt draw very well on a beat or close reach; that is why the ketch was given as the…"
Aug 24, 2016
dennis schneider replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Tangaroa Wingsail Schooner & Sloop pros & cons?
"Hi Allan, I built and sailed a Tangaroa Mk 1 for 2 yrs in all kinds of conditions; it had a ketch rig, which had these characteristics: PRO; it balanced very well, and would tack quickly in all conditions (rudders got a lot of extra fairing…"
Aug 24, 2016
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Approx weight of Tiki 38 beams

What is the approx weight of the Tiki 38 beams? I haven't any idea and was curious as to the weight of them.Cheers, AllenSee More
Aug 16, 2016

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At 2:05pm on April 7, 2015, Richard Gordon David said…
Hi Allen, yes I'll be your friend Tacenui Mae is maybe the only built from scratch Tanenui/Tiki hybrid which Hanneke is referring it can be done. My Tanenui hulls have had their freeboard raised which in turn gives bigger wider internal volume and adds length, my boat is 29 feet or almost 9 metres in length. Her original builder grafted Tiki style fore / cabin tops/ after decks exactly mirroring a Tiki 30 he had made a heavy duty aluminium tube at the bows which supports a central wooden walk on gangway and bow anchor roller, a netting is attached to this alloy cross tube beam between hull decks this holds the anchor and coiled chain/rope. She had just two main GRP Tiki 26 beams which whilst technically strong enough almost one third of after hulls had no beam support the last owner engineered a major upgrade key to this was two additional wooden cross beams one in between the alloy bow beam and first GRP main beam this beam also supports the Tiki style alloy mast she has wing main sail, the other wooden beam is about 3 feet forward from the rudder posts Hanneke sent me drawings for replacing the beam lashings but I ignored this idea and went for ratchet straps they are cheap very strong and most importantly easily tightened (impossible with lashings) Many Tiki 30's have ratchet straps. In addition to the wooden beams the previous owner built a large between hulls below deck locker this is between first wooden beam and the mast bearing GRP beam it is very useful and still I gives 2 ft plus wave clearance it does'nt slam at all. Between GRP beam 2 and after wooden beam a helmsmans cockpit has been built this has a Cuddy to protect from spray and houses instruments and engine controls outboard motor is mounted in front of helmsmans cuddy and is protected by freestanding engine box which doubles as cockpit table. Half moon shaped blisters have been added to both cabin tops they give full standing headroom in each hull yet look unobtrusive she is a much admired boat, her beam by the way is 15 ft . The Tanenui classic hull construction is too heavy as a trailer sailer mine weighs just over 2 tons a Tiki 30 is probably half that. Also I wouldn't bother with rope lashings for rigging stays stainless steel bottlecrews are much easier to tension properly . Hope this helps good luck Richard David
At 4:09am on April 8, 2015, Richard Gordon David said…
Hi Allen, I don't have any photos yet but will try on this I pad next time I'm in Exmouth (about twenty miles away) I'm guessing that Tacenui Mae's freeboard has been raised by around 5 or 6 inches this has increased her length and internal hull width. There was a standard Tanenui nearby which nobody believes is the basis of Tacenui Mae as that looks very small in comparison although both share the very sweet hull line. Incidentally, mine is currently on a boatyard beach right next to a Tiki 31 mine is at least 8" taller in the hulls and looks the bigger boat certainly has much bigger internal volume in the hulls.I don't know the reason why Tiki's have such little freeboard amidships (perhaps, it was to economise on sheets of plywood needed) I think ratchet straps are an essential improvement as with taller hulls the stresses on lashings at sea is much more than Tiki range, it is impossible for one person to tighten AND tie off lashings the last owner removed the ratchet straps and replaced with lashings, believe me on the delivery trip it was a bit scary how much the entire boat flexed the lashings became very loose and when at sea impossible to attend too wheras with ratchet straps it's simple to adjust tension. They are a very fast boat mine will sail for hours at over 13 knots . Good luck Richard
At 12:59pm on June 20, 2015, Brandon Gamble said…
Hey friend :)

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