TIKI 30

Comment by Jordan Balbresky on October 23, 2009 at 10:51pm

I took a look at your website David, that Tiki is gorgeous. I especially like the 4th beam supporting the rear trampoline and ladder, nice touch. Anyone out there have input on Epoxy brands. I am very familiar with West Systems, although I've been told by several local builders that the humidity (in the Virgin Islands) is too much for West, that it turns milky and they suggested System Three. Any thoughts?

Comment by SChapin on October 24, 2009 at 1:05am

Greetings Jordan. I'm back at work on T30 #197 here in Hawaii. I've been using a 5:1 epoxy that is "as" west system -Fiberglass Hawaii- , and the 'fast' hardener.
I have had no milky problems, but can mix only small batches... which works out very well to keep the heat down, the build up moving forward and less waste. I dont know but wonder if a slow hardener would be more prone to the emulsive milky thing in our -similar- climates.

Comment by boatsmith on October 24, 2009 at 5:34am

We build here in South Florida and ave not ad any problems from humidity with either West or Raka epoxies. WE almost always use fast hardener. David www.boatsmitfl.com

Comment by Jordan Balbresky on October 24, 2009 at 12:40pm

Thanks for the info. Also, in the building instructions it says that wire can be used for stitching, but screws are better for the larger Tikis. Any info on what you have used and dimensions of screws and holes? Finally, I have seen big differences between JWD estimated costs and what my calculations are and what others have spent, input would be greatly appreciated...Lot's of questions as I start this project, but my biggest concern is to just work non-stop and taking time off from building to refill the kitty is not what I'd like to do.

Comment by boatsmith on October 24, 2009 at 1:31pm

JWD's time estimates are off by a factor of 1 1/2 to 4 times depending on you skill level and your level of finish and how much equipment you are including. Making everything fair and pretty takes more time, lots more.If you are happy with fillets that are not so smooth and don't want a premium paint finish then you will save time. If you don't want any plumbing or electric in the boat you will also save time. No adding any extras such as a rear beam and tramps w/boarding ladder, ice boxes, varnished interior trim, cushions, bimini, anchor storage/roller, spinnaker gear, ad nauseum. You get the idea, to build a bare rough boat can be done close to JWD's hrs. Most people want more boat than that. But not everyone. We use deck screws for temporary clamps. We use flat washers to provide more pulling power and to prevent burying the screw head. Cost is a huge variable. It depends upon ones desires and ones shopping abilities. Beat Rettenmund built his Tiki 38 for under $50k. His boat has a work-boat finish and is equipped simply. He is also royalty when it comes to being able scrounge 2nd hand gear and coming up with novel lo-cost options. His entire rig cost under $500. He sailed with his wife,Beatriz and a friend from San Fransisco to Hawaii in 16 days, so I guess the rig works OK. The boat is also very attractive.
The short answer is it will cost more and take longer than you think, just ask my wife!!

Comment by Budget Boater on October 25, 2009 at 7:33am

I second Boatsmith on his time and cost estimates. Having already built 2 Wharrams, and on my third, it always takes more time than Wharram's estimates, even if you are skilled at it. In most cases, it also costs more than his estimates, even for the basic boat.

Comment by Zee Nagual on June 2, 2011 at 9:55am

Hi everyone , I am a new member ,about to order Tiki 30 plans and start building. I owned  a few yachts over last 20 years of live aboard life stile  all multihulls , after building a large ,modern 52 ft performance cat , I experienced all the downfalls of building ,keeping and sailing a large yacht , , Selling it was very rewarding . Owning a house now and not happy with stale average suburban living . The sea and a 'hero' lifestyle calls again . All my yachting experience is pointing to one ideal boat to build own and sail and it is Tiki 30 . I think I made the right choice .

Comment by Polinesio - Tarcisio Silva on June 2, 2011 at 1:14pm

Yes Zee,

True, you are on the right place! Wellcome.

Cheers,

Tarcisio.

Polinesio Catamarans

www.polinesio.net

Comment by Justin Haines on July 23, 2011 at 3:24pm

Is it feasible on the T30 to move the rear beam further aft so tha the cabin can be pushed back so that that you can have 4 double berths. My thinking is to increase the accommodation for a family boat for tropical holiday cruising. Most of the day will be spent on deck under the bimini which needs to have roll up sides for bad weather. Any comments.

Comment by Polinesio - Tarcisio Silva on July 23, 2011 at 8:18pm

Hi Justin,

The "double" bunks on Tiki 30' have only 0,95 m width. If you stretch the cabin backward to get another berth, this will very narrow for a couple, even at honey moon. (smile!)

I think the better way to increase accomodation is to build a deck tent. This option will provide very big protected space when anchored, without wind or rain inside. You can see mine at www.veleiro.net/polinesio.

Cheers,

Tarcisio.

Polinesio Catamarans

www.polinesio.net

www.veleiro.net/polinesio

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