Lashing

[Brian Gartland]

Hi All,
I just aquired a Tangaroa MkIV and I think the beam lashings need to be replaced. Can someone tell me what type of line to use and how much I need as well as any tips on how it should be done or where I can find this info?
Brian

[Budget Boater]

The Tangaroa MKIV did not come with lashed beams per the plans. You have a boat that is modified to have lashed beams. The only one that I know of with this system is Double Eagle II which has since been sold to Dan Kunz and renamed Forever Young. That particular boat was authorized by Wharram to have this particular modification, and it was based on the Tiki 38 beams and lashings.

Without knowing exactly the type of modified system you have, it would be difficult to give adequate advice considering that the beams and their lashings are of extreme importance to the integrity of your boat. I would suspect that Tiki 38 lashing specifications would be adequate for a Tangaroa MKIV, but don't quote me on that. You may want to put in a call to James just to make sure.

[boatsmith]

Hi Brian, If you were to put up a couple of photos of your present lashings it woul make for more accurate comments. Double braid dacron is what is usually used for the beam lashings. Tiki 38 specs 8mm for diameter, Tiki 30 uses 6mm so I'm thinking 5/16" would be fine for a Tangaroa. David www.boatsmithfl.com

[Ann and Neville Clement]

Double congratulations!
First of all, we are happy to hear that you are adding that new little crew member. You two make cute kids, for sure! And second, we are delighted to know you have bought the Tangaroa Mk IV. Great choice for your young family.
I am assuming your boat currently has Classic type fastening system. Right? And you are considering putting Tiki type lashings on her. Right?
About those lashings... Why bother re designing the boat for Tiki type lashings when the Classics have been sailing and making excellent ocean passages for decades using their own well respected Classic type system which is already in place on your boat? Seriously, Brian, if there is need for maintainence or repair, then just do that and get going! Sometimes I think the majority of boat work is totally wasted time. Once you get the boat strong, then the sailing is what you need to do. As you sail along, you will make some minor changes each year for comfort or convenience but will probably come to respect James Wharram's original design more and more as the miles add up. Keep it simple and miximize fun. The Classics are tuff critters and they have a proud sailing history of their own. Don't try to turn your boat into a Tiki. Grow the family and enjoy the boat.
But if you are determined to continue on with making an apple out of an orange, let us know and we will see what we can do to help out.
Love, Ann and Nev

[Brian Gartland]

Hey Ann,
I have no plans to change anything on the boat, at least until I've sailed it for a while. I just wanted to know what type of line to use and how to go about tying up the beams. The line that is on there has some mushrooms growing out of it. I just finished scraping off all of the bottom paint down to the epoxy and found no rot or soft spots. What do you use for bottom paint on Peace? I'm going to give it a couple coats of MAS just to be sure no water gets in there. Believe it or not, we didn't even have to buy the boat. I called the guy who owns it because it hadn't been in the water for a couple years and I thought maybe I could get it cheap and he just gave it to me. Must have been that Manjack Magic spreading North. Ab and I can't find your phone number. Can you send it so we can call and catch up. I hope Nev's knees are feeling better. Talk to you soon.
Brian
Ann and Neville Clement said:

Double congratulations!
First of all, we are happy to hear that you are adding that new little crew member. You two make cute kids, for sure! And second, we are delighted to know you have bought the Tangaroa Mk IV. Great choice for your young family.
I am assuming your boat currently has Classic type fastening system. Right? And you are considering putting Tiki type lashings on her. Right?
About those lashings... Why bother re designing the boat for Tiki type lashings when the Classics have been sailing and making excellent ocean passages for decades using their own well respected Classic type system which is already in place on your boat? Seriously, Brian, if there is need for maintainence or repair, then just do that and get going! Sometimes I think the majority of boat work is totally wasted time. Once you get the boat strong, then the sailing is what you need to do. As you sail along, you will make some minor changes each year for comfort or convenience but will probably come to respect James Wharram's original design more and more as the miles add up. Keep it simple and miximize fun. The Classics are tuff critters and they have a proud sailing history of their own. Don't try to turn your boat into a Tiki. Grow the family and enjoy the boat.
But if you are determined to continue on with making an apple out of an orange, let us know and we will see what we can do to help out.
Love, Ann and Nev