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Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
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Bonjour,I wish to put an asymmetric spinnaker on my Tiki 21. Bowsprit it ready, thanks to Gratitude, and I have asked sail makers but... I think that they are very optimistic in the sizes they…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Éric Bouvéron Apr 2.

tied "chainplates" as anchor point for a block
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Bonjour,I am looking at an anchor point for my clew block for an assymetric spinaker, an I found a picture of a block simply tied on a laced chainplate of a Tiki21.This is a very good angle for an…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by SoLong Mar 18.

Double mainsheet how does it works?
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Hi,I'd like to understand how a double mainsheet works, and if there is any benef over a traveller as designed on the Tiki 21 design.Reason is that my traveller always jam, doesn't work smoothly,.…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Éric Bouvéron Mar 1.

Battery doesn't charge,is it the controler?
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Bonjour,My battery is not charged by my solar panel, and I do not understand why.Also,when I try to charge it directly on a socket, I must unplug the charge controler or the battery won't charge.Can…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Éric Bouvéron Dec 9, 2019.

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Éric Bouvéron replied to SoLong's discussion Coronavirus COVID-19
"No restriction on boating in Hong Kong.I will tomorrow prepair my Tiki21 for a week camping cruise in the territory and islands. Bars, cinemas...everything is closed however."
Sunday
Éric Bouvéron replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
"Thank you all. Finally thecsail will be 25 sqm,and if the mastvstays up I will come back to give you impressionsxans pictures. Thanks again, Éric"
Apr 2
Roger replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
"PS I see that your message was about assymetric spinnakers. My 230 sq foot doyle is an APS which has a very flat cut. The flat cut allows it too sail closer to the wind (a bit higher than a reach), but it is not good for sailing deep angles. When…"
Mar 29
Roger replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
"Another issue is how to measure the size of a spinnaker which is not easy because of the shape. My understanding is that it is measured as if it is a flat triangle between luff, leech and foot. This applies to the sizes I have given for my sails…"
Mar 29
Éric Bouvéron replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
"Hi, Thank you again for your feedback. I will speak with the sail maker. Once settled, I will show some picture of the result right here. I wish you all the best winds you may wish, Thanks again and best regards, Éric"
Mar 29
Roger replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
"I use three spinnakers on my Tiki 21. An assymetric doyle about 230 square feet (21 sm), a flattish symmetric about 240 sq feet (23 sqm), and a 350 sq ft symmetric for light winds (32.5 sq m). There is no way you can use anything bigger than 350 sq…"
Mar 28
SoLong replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
"Overpower For sure: A gennaker is a light wind sail. I do not feel to overpower my boat in light winds.  Racing Do you know the feeling, that you are in a race if there is another boat nearby on the same course? Under light wind conditions a…"
Mar 28
Robert Hughes replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
"Hi Eric, I'm no expert on chutes, but something does feel wrong in what the sailmakers are saying.  As Gerhard says, you can manually handle a sail that size ok, but I suspect it will overpower your boat in anything but very light…"
Mar 27
SoLong replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker
"Hello Eric, the sail you see on my photos has 42m². This is not to big and I can handle it under good conditions one hand. I use a gennaker roller by Bartels. I use no Bowsprit but a traveller to trim the sail. Best regards Gerhard"
Mar 27
Éric Bouvéron posted a discussion

Tiki 21. How big is your asymmetric spinaker

Bonjour,I wish to put an asymmetric spinnaker on my Tiki 21. Bowsprit it ready, thanks to Gratitude, and I have asked sail makers but... I think that they are very optimistic in the sizes they give.With the clew block at the back of the boat, they suggest no less than 28sq meters. Did some of you use such a big sail, if yes is it manageable, if not what are the areas you use?With thanks Cheers, ÉricSee More
Mar 26
SoLong replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion tied "chainplates" as anchor point for a block
"I mounted two standing blocks at the back of the cabin roof of my Tiki 30"
Mar 18
Éric Bouvéron posted a discussion

tied "chainplates" as anchor point for a block

Bonjour,I am looking at an anchor point for my clew block for an assymetric spinaker, an I found a picture of a block simply tied on a laced chainplate of a Tiki21.This is a very good angle for an assymetric, but Iwould like to know if this place is a good and safe anchor point for the clew block, and if you have other suggestions, since I can't find a really convenient place for this block.Thank you all,ÉricSee More
Mar 14
Éric Bouvéron replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Double mainsheet how does it works?
"Well, I did it. Try it this week-end and very pleased with it. It's, on my opinion, far better than the traveler. Of course, you need two double blocks and a one more sheet. I found two spinlocks that are perfect.  My next project will be…"
Mar 1
Reuben Filsell replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Double mainsheet how does it works?
"What is wrong with Jam cleats as per the original drawing ? That is what a conventional mainsheet uses."
Feb 24
Éric Bouvéron replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Double mainsheet how does it works?
Feb 24
Éric Bouvéron replied to Éric Bouvéron's discussion Double mainsheet how does it works?
"Thank you Reuben, I think it is also possible like this, with two sheets and double blocks, but with the width of the Tiki and the engine in the middle, I can't figure how to put the cleats for an easy control."
Feb 24

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A home builder, I want a Wharram
What boat (s) are you building or do you own?
J24. sold now.
Bought plans for a Tiki21
Hope to start this summer.
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Hong Kong
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Tiki 21, to build here in Hong Kong, or most likely China.
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Tiki 21 topsail

Hi,

An assymetric orcsymetric spinaker is nice on a small Tiki, but did some of you try a topsail? According to the gaff rig, it may be possible. Any idea around?

Cheers,

Éric

Posted on November 1, 2019 at 3:58am — 2 Comments

Tiki 21. Parts layout on the 15mm plywood sheet.

Bonjour,

I started to loft yesterday, making templates for the 15mm sheet of the Tiki21.

I take careful mesurements, then tried to put everything on the 1200 x 2400 plywood sheet. Impossible. I cannot put everything. I finished with no space for one rudder.

Mesured again, and agin. Same results, can't find any mistake on my side.

So, question is: did some of you faced the same problem? I will if necessary find a piece of plywood for the remaining part, but I'd like to know… Continue

Posted on July 25, 2015 at 6:16am

Before I order West System, ask help for clarification

Bonjour,



I am now on the way to order the resin, and found West System in Shenzhen,China.



I am on for a Tiki 21, and, if some have experience in the building of this model



1-Are quantities indicated in instructions correct (no need to have more of a articular item?)

2-It is asked for : 406A 0.275 kg Colloidal Silica and 409B 4.5kg Microspheres (for fillets) OR

407B 3.5kg Low Density Filler (for fillets).

Is the reference 407B replaces bothe 406A… Continue

Posted on July 15, 2015 at 3:19am — 1 Comment

About the Wood Triangular Section

Bonjour,

All wood has been sourced now, but the "Triangular Section". Not able (capable?) to find it standard, (here in China, Shenzhen area )and since it is not in the form of a "square triangle", (BC² = AC² + AB²) I hesitate on what to order to mill it myself with my hand circular saw mounted on a table.

I am on a project for a Tiki 21, and the base of the wanted triangular section is 32mm, while the sides are 25mm. Or, "Imperialy speaking" base 1 1/4" and sides 1". (I just…

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Posted on July 7, 2015 at 2:57am

Comment Wall (3 comments)

At 11:32am on April 29, 2015, sailorjoy said…

thank you for the reference

At 7:23pm on July 16, 2015, Blanc Jean-Paul said…
Thanks a lot
J'ai commencé mon petit catamaran sans avoir d'expérience de la résine. Et j'ai eu quelques hésitations et la peur de rater. Mais au final aucun problème sérieux. Donc, vas y fonce.
At 8:33am on April 27, 2018, john james said…

Hey Eric thank you so much for the tip on window installation that was really helpful both systems are so sanitary it was a bit shaming comparing my technique to how they performed the job. I wish I'd been watching these two websites earlier I would've ended up with a much nicer building experience

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