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Bill Ludeman replied to Allen Bosely's discussion Single Yamaha T9.9 powerful enough for Tangaroa?
"I can directly  address this. I own a Tangaroa mk1 that has had several of these yamaha 9.9 high thrust outboards. The original builder supplied two extras when I purchased the boat plus the one that was on it.    I bought my boat in…"
Oct 26, 2016
Trevor McKenzie left a comment for Bill Ludeman
"Hi Bill, Thanks for the encouragement.Checked out your boat, looks really good and nice rig.My boat will have the standard  sloop rig suggested by Wharram in the plans. Thought a lot about the schooner rig the Tiki 46 has, but your have to…"
May 24, 2013
Bill Ludeman replied to Herb Moore's discussion New owner of a Tangaroa
"Hi Herb,  CONGRATULATIONS !!    Glad to hear you bought your boat.     I don't have an argument for the river but do have some comments.      I spent two decades playing on the…"
May 22, 2013
Bill Ludeman left a comment for Trevor McKenzie
"Beautiful lines - nice work.    Initially thought it was a Tangaroa like mine!!    Longer and slimmer lines though.   VERY nice.   Keep posting pics please!"
May 22, 2013
Bill Ludeman commented on Budget Boater's group Restoring Wharrams
"I don't know how to post on the main forum, maybe it could be a regular subject, is that what you mean Galway?   Since our boats tend to be scattered around the world the legalities are a bit shifty.  I got a kick out of…"
Mar 24, 2013
Bill Ludeman left a comment for Rod McLaren
"One thing that might help is to toggle back and forth between whatever you are looking at and the main page.  I don't know why that works but sometimes I post or read something and it seems to disappear.    Then I toggle it…"
Mar 23, 2013
Rod McLaren left a comment for Bill Ludeman
"Thanks, Bill, glad to know I am not the only one who is confused by this Forum. I do hope whoever is administering the site will recognize the issue and provide us with a solution. My Tiki 21 is back in the water, in the Gulf of Guinea under my…"
Mar 23, 2013
Bill Ludeman commented on Budget Boater's group Restoring Wharrams
"I am not sure where the best place to post this but it is IMPORTANT. I posted it on my page but it seems to me that the restoring group might be the best place so here it is again.   I had my boat safety checked by the US Coast Guard…"
Mar 23, 2013
Bill Ludeman replied to Olivier R.'s discussion All Wharram in the world Tous les Wharram dans le monde
"Thanks for adding my info to the map.   I sure hope this grows, lots of Wharrams not on there yet.    Great way to help find each other.   Bill"
Mar 12, 2013
Bill Ludeman replied to Olivier R.'s discussion All Wharram in the world Tous les Wharram dans le monde
"I am in Palatka Fl and know of 3 Wharrams here.  A pahi 26 apart and in storage, a Beautiful T26 sitting on a trailer and my own Mk1 Tangaroa anchored in the river, all downtown Palatka.    I could not figure out how to add them…"
Mar 12, 2013
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Mar 10, 2013
Bill Ludeman left a comment for Bill Ludeman
"Paulagyiri,   too much spam and stuff to respond to a private request.  If you are on the level ask any question or email me more info.  Sorry but the way this is worded it sounds like a scam to me.   If not - sorry.  …"
Jul 3, 2012
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"Figure 3ft to the mast step from the water.  Might be a bit more.   (12inch high box beam) and I can clear 38ft bridge clearance.   so mast must be right at 33 ft or a bit less.  Plans call for 34 ft if I…"
Jun 9, 2012
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"Thanks for the feed back Bill. Wow. That mast is aft! Do you know the height?"
Jun 9, 2012
Bill Ludeman replied to Wanjoo Kim's discussion Mast Height for Tangaroa MK1 formerly Taraipo, now Monali.
"I too have a Mark I Tangaroa however my rig is aft like a Prout.   Designed by Thomas Firth Jones.    Don't know if my information will help you or not. Check out my pics on this website and see what you think. …"
Jun 9, 2012
Scott Williams commented on Bill Ludeman's status
"Hey Bill, See you there!  It should be a good one this year."
May 16, 2012

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I own a Wharram
What boat (s) are you building or do you own?
Tangaroa MKI with Thomas FIrth Jones rig
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Palatka Fl USA

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At 7:56am on January 16, 2011, stephen c veale said…

Hi Bill,  I"m sure you'll find alot of info pertaining to your boat on this site.

I'M BACK IN THE FROZEN TUNDRA! [NJ]

I was checking out your area in florida [electronically] and was wondering if you can get the boat there?

It sure is nice having ones boat close to home.

take care,

steve

 

At 11:02am on May 5, 2012, stephen c veale said…

nice pics bill!

 

At 12:38am on July 3, 2012, Bill Ludeman said…

Paulagyiri,   too much spam and stuff to respond to a private request.  If you are on the level ask any question or email me more info.  Sorry but the way this is worded it sounds like a scam to me.   If not - sorry.     Bill

At 2:04am on March 23, 2013, Bill Ludeman said…

I am not sure where the best place to post this but it is IMPORTANT.

I had my boat safety checked by the US Coast Guard Auxiliary - it was free and they also don't turn you in for major violations.    I made every effort to "Pass" the inspection.     THE ONE BIG THING IT TURNED UP was very important.    I did not have an HIN or Hull Inspection Number.    Something that has been overlooked for 30 yrs with no trouble.   My boat was sold by the builder and purchased by another fellow who then sold it to me.    By the letter of the law we all committed crimes.    Argh!     I had no idea nor did anybody else.    I read the Florida statute and freaked out.     I also read up on this - It is a Federal requirement and the rules have change several times since my boat was built.     My boat now has an HIN clearly marked so is stone cold legal.   I have looked at many  older home built boats and this has never come up.  I don't know if they do or do not have HIN's but now that our government has HomelyLandsickurity in charge of the waterways it is for sure smart to go check on it and make sure you're legal.   The law says that ANY law enforcement officer can confiscate and impound your boat until its proven that you legally own it.    In other words they can take your boat and charge you for storing it while the guvmint sorts out whatever.  SInce mine has a thirty year history and has been registered in three states it might take them forever to sort it out.   Scary stuff.      I have taken steps to further backup the legality of my boat.    I hate to sound like a scaredy cat (pun intended)  but this stuff terrifies me. 

The other interesting thing that I turned up was that the USCGA inspector glanced at my type 3 MSD and said its a Portapotti.    I showed him the rating on it and he said oh don't worry its ok to have a portapotti.    Very worrisome - it is a standard looking potti but has the needed stuff to pipe thru the deck and a pump out fitting.    He also argued I would have to have a Y valve to be legal.   Now here is a guy who simply has not read the various rules and he is inspecting boats.    He passed me but taught me that if it looks like a portapotti it is probably going to have to be PROVEN that its a type 3 MSD.   So I printed out ALL the info on it including the US Coast Guards regulations and put them all in a zip lock next to my MSD.    Glad I found this out before it made me eligible for a misunderstanding resulting in a ticket.   One of my neighbors in the anchorage was threatened with a 5,000 dollar fine!?!?   Dunno if they can do that but don't want to find out.     

So the "free" USCGA VSC or Vessel Safety Check ordeal is over and it was well worth finding out about.   It turned up two problems I did not know I had and allowed me to fix them gracefully.     I would encourage anyone in the US to go ahead and get one and pay attention to what the inspector says.    Hope this helps - Bill and Tang in Palatka Fl

At 8:59pm on March 23, 2013, Rod McLaren said…

Thanks, Bill, glad to know I am not the only one who is confused by this Forum. I do hope whoever is administering the site will recognize the issue and provide us with a solution. My Tiki 21 is back in the water, in the Gulf of Guinea under my son's command and he is hoping to find some suggestions for his problem. I guess we wait and see what happens.

Cheers,

Rod

At 11:20am on May 24, 2013, Trevor McKenzie said…

Hi Bill, 
Thanks for the encouragement.Checked out your boat, looks really good and nice rig.My boat will have the standard  sloop rig suggested by Wharram in the plans. Thought a lot about the schooner rig the Tiki 46 has, but your have to build that yourself, and I want the boat finished. Easier to buy the rig, and it will be faster too.Will post more pics soon.
Cheers Trevor

At 8:19pm on November 28, 2013, Brandon Gamble said…

Hey Bill nice pics! I live in Sarasota, FL and I'd love to come and see your boat sometime. I am currently sailing a Tiki 21 but am considering building a Tangaroa MKIV or a Tiki 38 for live aboard. At any rate it would be cool to meet another Wharram owner.

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