Tiki 21 Spinnaker

Comment by Galway Bay on October 22, 2013 at 12:54pm

super - maybe I should step down to a 21....

Comment by Roger on October 22, 2013 at 3:12pm

Maybe we can do a swap - I would be perfectly happy to trade up to a P31!

Comment by Galway Bay on October 22, 2013 at 3:32pm

Keep it simple as you can for as long as you can - small boats small worry big boat big worry. Seriously if your T 21 fills your sailing needs be careful not to fall into the trap of getting a bigger boat just to own a bigger boat.

You are one of the members here actually sailing - would you actually do more sailing with a bigger boat ? or just more maintenance ?

Comment by Roger on October 22, 2013 at 3:40pm

You are right. Even the 21 is a lot of work in maintenance. I have a policy that no work should be done that will prevent sailing - so the boat is in the water all the time and I do bottom jobs at the beach at low tide. I would like to be able to sit inside though, and to have some more waterline length for the open water - a Tiki 26 or similar is probably my ideal boat.

Comment by Jay Bennett on October 22, 2013 at 5:34pm

I have a spinnaker heading my way in the post. Exciting. So looking at how I'm going to set it up on my tiki 21. 

The clamp and prussek loop you have on the side stay - I see in another photo you run the clew line back to a pulley and then through another pulley on this - does this not put alot of pressure on to your side stays? 

Also at the front do where do you have the tack connected to? 

Comment by Roger on October 22, 2013 at 5:50pm

Hi Jay,

I followed the recommendations on Richard Woods site about spinnaker control. There are two guys running through pulleys at each bow to both tacks of the spin. There are two sheets that run down each side of the boat round a 40mm block on the back beam and then back to an autoratchet on the shrouds. The autoratchets are attached to the bottom of the shrouds, not the clamp loop that you can see on the shroud - that's a handle for me to hold onto! I think that the shroud bases should be strong enough to handle the loads - an alternative would be a hard attachment point on the cabin top (I don't like making holes when a line will do!)

Comment by Ian Bamsey on October 23, 2013 at 5:10am

Great pictures and interesting to see that set up. The friend I bought my 21 from insists on everything being super simple, sailing here with just two sheets running through the wooden loops on the bow, hooked back on the beam cleat when on more of a reach and secured into the jib jamming cleats.

I'm interested in a half way; what is a simple arrangement without loads of extra blocks etc.

Comment by Roger on October 23, 2013 at 8:57am

Hi Ian,

I like that philosophy too - and its a Wharram right! But here in the Bay it blows 20 knots every afternoon pretty much and I sail singlehanded most of the time. Which means I need good control of the sail. I experimented with basic lines and it worked in light air. But when the breeze gets up the loads a re such that the autoratchets are needed. Using Woods' lay out, I can gybe back in forth downwind on my own in a breeze. Cheers.

Comment by Ian Bamsey on October 23, 2013 at 9:16am

Roger, thanks for the reply, most interesting and helpful. Yes I see your point. I've not taken the boat out in those sorts of conditions and I can see how it would get difficult. Do you have a link to Wood's layout? I'd really like to see that. In fact I'm still searching around for general layouts for the Tiki 21 as mine is in need of a refit. I've only had the boat a while and there's not much of a set up on it. I need a traveller for a start!

Yes it's a Tiki 21 in the picture. Only a few knots of wind but zipping along. We had the starboard sheet clipped back on the beam end cleat in this shot. Easy as we were two handed - we were down the estuary, beached up and in the pub in an hour!

Cheers.

Comment by Roger on October 23, 2013 at 9:54am

Hi Ian,

Here is the link

http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/index.php/articles/11-technical-ar...

He also talks about spin size etc.

A half way option could be like the setup you can see on Boatsmith's Tiki 30 with a single tack attachment and sheet on one side from the clew, but still going to a block. The only problem with this setup is that it is harder to gybe - you might need to rearrange lines or drop the spin and reset it on the other side to gybe. Its more similar to an assym set up.

Nice - taking a sail to the pub!

Rog

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