Tiki 31

Comment by Thom delForge on November 20, 2009 at 8:50pm

Hector -- I like the second drawing -- but weight may be an issue. You could always increase the hull beam a little to compensate.

T

Comment by Hector de Ezcurra on December 5, 2009 at 11:49pm

I've changed the drafts for a more tidy drawing. I imagine the enclosing of the cockpits in a way it tries not to increase windage and weight much, leaving the 4 cabins with bunks for 4 to 6 people, a galley in one enclosed cockpit and a navigation table, a wet locker and WC in the other (none of them with standing headroom, but a tolerable sitting headroom). By giving up standing headroom, I can save working another 1500 hs. to build a Tiki 38!

Best regards.

Comment by Thom delForge on December 6, 2009 at 8:32am

Hector -- What a good design! If I where ten years younger I would consider such a redesign -- It make all kinds of sense -- and it's good looking too!

Thom

Comment by Hector de Ezcurra on December 6, 2009 at 9:46am

Thom:
Thank you!

Comment by Manos Amanakis on December 19, 2009 at 2:32pm

Hello Hector,
The last drawing you have posted is great! It is exactly what I have in mind for my Tiki 31, although I intend to use the one central enclosed cockpit as a galley and for storage and the other one as a toilet and wet locker. I have also made arrangements for two water tanks which will be installed under the beam troughs of beam 2 in the enclosed cockpits. The volume of these areas as I now see it is enough to move around and you have more then descent sitting headroom ( about 1,6 m above the floor I have already installed). I am still working on the idea of making a large opening over each cockpit with an expandable roof top, like on the Pahi 31, which will give me standing headroom when being at anchor. One rear cabin will host the navigation table and instruments along with the boats main electrical panel, batteries etc.
I hope I will soon be able to post some photos with my progress on all these matters but I would like to hear your comments for any adjustments, while there is still time...
Manos

Comment by Hector de Ezcurra on December 19, 2009 at 2:40pm

Manos, I'll be following your blog with great interest. I'm very curious about how the arrangement works. At sea, under nasty weather or rain, coming out of the galley or the toilet to go to the forward cabins could be unconfortable, but the privacy of the 4 cabins and the posibility of sleeping confortably while the rest of the crew cooks, sails, uses de toilet or navigates, could be very interesting.

Comment by Manos Amanakis on December 19, 2009 at 3:23pm

Hector, you are right about the bad weather. However, since there is no way you can move freely from the cabins to the central cockpits because of the beams, there is no point in making these compartments to communicate. On the other hand keeping the cabins and navigation area free of the smell and water-moisture of the galley and toilet is essential but not easy in a small boat where usually these areas are in the same compartment. After all, having more than one separated watertight compartments may add to the safety of the boat.
Manos

Comment by Hector de Ezcurra on December 19, 2009 at 3:36pm

I know that Wharram suggests not to enclose the cockpits, but as I can see in the photos, almost every Tiki 31 owner finds his own way of enclosing them with canvas or some other way, and in the end, it's unaesthetic and it ruins the design and windage, even worse than building a nice and logical cabin.

Comment by Jose Alberto Garibaldi on August 4, 2010 at 6:08pm

All

Thanks for setting up this site. Have recenty found a TIKI 31 after a long search, and many of your comments here helped me in the search, and getting decided, as well as Paul's narrative of his trip from France (his was one of the boats I tracked!). Likewise with Tom's useful photos, Manos blog and Hector's insightful musings. WIll add photos as soon as have them. Best regards to all,
Jose

Comment by Hector de Ezcurra on August 4, 2010 at 8:03pm

Jose Alberto:
Where are you from? (I mean, because of your name.) Congratulations for your T31! As soon as you can, show us some pictures.
Héctor.

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