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This is a phony debate manufactured by the republican party and designed exactly to get people "crazy ass mad" so they'll stop talking about more important things like health care and carbon emissions. Constitutional questions are better handled by the courts than by public indignation. The problem is that the legal system works much slower, as it should, than the 24 hour media cycle. There is really no point in getting yourself worked up about an issue that needs no champion. A more beneficial use of your time would be to write your congressman and tell them what kind of healthcare system you want, or just go do some more sanding. Don't worry, these constitutional questions WILL be answered.
Phony? Republican Party? Manufactured? Designed?
Huh? From what planet have you descended?
First you are calling me a Republican, which I am not. Second you say that it is manufactured by a party which does not represent me. Hmmm. Seeing as how it was reported by the most liberal newspaper in the country about the words of our liberal president, how in the world do you get manufactured by Republicans out of that?
It is a FACT that the Military Commissions Act exists.
It is a FACT that the Patriot Act exists.
It is a FACT that these tyrannical Executive Orders exist along with many others (perpetrated by all presidents since Ford, regardless of party affiliation):
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
You see Brian, you have fallen into the trap of actually being divided by the left/right paradigm. They have pulled the wool over your eyes making you believe that there is a substantial difference between liberal and conservative politicians. What they say in public to rally the "vote," is much different from what they do in the end. The fact is, that they seek to keep us divided with ridiculous arguments that in the end will have little to no bearing on our lives, while they plunder and pillage our beloved Constitution and erode the rights of everyone in this nation.
Our legal system has had plenty of opportunity to right the wrongs of our elected officials dating back to July 9, 1868, yet have not. So, if you wish to believe that our legal system will eventually get around to restoring the wrongs made to our rights after 141 years of not doing so, you are truly blinded by the system.
Now to address your other topics. Healthcare: Hmmm, let's see....in a Republic, no one is guaranteed healthcare. They are only guaranteed the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (property.) Why should I, or anyone else, be "forced" to pay for a bunch of fat gluttoness slobs, chain smokers, and thrill seekers? We shouldn't under the laws of a Republic. So what do I want out of health care? For the politicians to get the hell out of health care.
Carbon Emissions: Hmmm, another fascinating topic....science has proven that carbon emissions rise after warming of the earth has occurred, not the other way around. So, what do you think that any human can do about Earth's natural cycles? Not one thing. I bet you are one of those people who actually says, "we (humans) are destroying the earth." I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the earth existed long before humans, and it will exist long after we kill ourselves off. Whatever humans do, whatever we create, it will recycle it and there will be no trace that we ever existed 40,000,000 years after we are gone. We are but a gnat on the ass of an elephant.
So what do I write my congressman about? Get out of healtcare. Get out of global warming heresy. Give us our rights and liberty back. We were born with the right to live free, and you seem to be OK with having your rights taken from you by the few. Sad really, considering that when they take your rights, they are taking everyone's rights.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot: Sanding. When you sand epoxy, paint, or other chemical compounds, it releases known dangerous chemicals into the air. Definitely dangerous to humans, not so much to the earth. So by telling me that I should "just go do some more sanding," are you indirectly telling me I should go kill myself? ;)
Brian Gartland said:This is a phony debate manufactured by the republican party and designed exactly to get people "crazy ass mad" so they'll stop talking about more important things like health care and carbon emissions. Constitutional questions are better handled by the courts than by public indignation. The problem is that the legal system works much slower, as it should, than the 24 hour media cycle. There is really no point in getting yourself worked up about an issue that needs no champion. A more beneficial use of your time would be to write your congressman and tell them what kind of healthcare system you want, or just go do some more sanding. Don't worry, these constitutional questions WILL be answered.
When I was in school, we had a class called "civics" where we studied the constitution, generally learned the legal system, and how American freedoms came to be. It was interesting, but I did not understand how important it was until I learned that "civics" are no longer taught in the schools. So today's young adults and kids do not know about that part of our history or rights.