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HI Folks! I'm new here,also new to the catamaran's worlds, but like most of us here, I'm hooked by Wharram's designs. I really like the lines of the TEHINI, but I'm having a hard time to find more informations about the sailing qualities of that beautifull boat. Could some that have sailed it or know some thing about it. How does it point to the wind? I heard that most of the classic don't point as good as the Tikis and Pahis... what about Tehini?
Any comments are wellcome! thanks for posting!!!
Cheers!!
Capt Lucky.
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Well... I guess not too many people had the chance to sail it.... Maybe ask to Hans Klar?! ;) i guess the guys that has most sailed it. Also can't find any new pictures... just some outdated ones... Anyway, thanks to all that may reply here.
Cheers!
Lucky
If you want to see some photos , you can go on our page , mahanga.over-blog.com , there is our trip for this last winnter from france to caribean.
Perfect boat that's sure
HI Vicent!! Thanks for your reply! What a nice boat you guys have, sure is one of finest one I've seen! Congratulations. Could you tell me how does it perform in the sea? like poiting. Did you guys had chance to take some heavy wheather? Could you guys send me some more interior pics? Thank you very much!!!
Cheers!!!
Vincent Sophie said:
If you want to see some photos , you can go on our page , mahanga.over-blog.com , there is our trip for this last winnter from france to caribean.
Perfect boat that's sure
Salut,
heavy weather we took some . For the wind , no stress the ketch rig is perfect, we have also old sails and when it was really too strog (once in a jibe , mainsail 've broke . For the sea and it's the worst , big wawe at 90° make the boat skid down,slowly and safety . By the face , the boat go up ( 6-7m) and go down , but we decide to turn back and go from where we left after half hour, speed was really bad (3 kt) and after some condition we think it' better to not force and to take reasonnable decision : back. With tis back and the same wawes (5_6 m) Mahanga record a 16_17kt !!! perfectly . A little hard on the stearing wheel but safe.
We are a litle to heavy (10-11t) and going slowly down , it'll be rellay better at 8-9 t and with news sails (for pointing also ) .
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Vincent & Sophie
Well so they dont point very good; not a problem just work around it. as for information on these classic designs i have to say that i have spent lots of hours looking and few finding. seems the folks that build them sail off and just don't write much.
I bought the study plans and tried to find the boat's mentioned in the literature and most are not on the net at all. You occasionally see one come up for sale or someone posts a picture or two. seems the folks that love the simple boats are more concerned with sailing than talking about it.
There is a Tehini for sale on the community page on Wharram Designs. The best place for info. on the older boats is probably the "Sailorman" magazine from the old PCA all of which are available as a download.
To work these boats to windward you must concentrate on the vector made good [VMG to the racing boys]. Over pointing is the most common failing that I find in helmsmen. The reputation of these boats 20yrs ago was that their real weakness was tacking up a narrow channel. They have a name for being very slow to come about. They have also a wonderful reputation in open water.
Thanks Galway
IMO if you can't tack in a channel then its engine time. Really how many folks spend lots of time in a channel trying to sail?
I am not against no engine sailing but here in the PNW we have lots of really fast and narrow rivers sailing up them is not really an option.
Good tip on the VMG; thank you.
I don't have a Tehini, but at 44' Kaimu probably handles similarly. The Tehini is 7 feet longer. I've found that cutter rig works well to windward. Under main (about 375) and staysail (about 300) there is a lot of weather helm due to having the genoa rolled up. This probably slows the boat, but she goes where she's pointed and tacks like a dinghy. I tacked up my inlet when the engine got clogged with the ethanol gasoline and it was a lot of work, the inlet is only 150 m wide at its narrowest, but it was possible.
Sailing with the full rig including the RF genoa (about 500) generates apparent wind such that with 10 knots abeam we get almost closehauled with the wind approaching 45 degrees on the bow, then on the return reach, still close hauled.
I've had the engine fail several times due to ethanol gas and have sailed the inlet as a result, usually don't have the wind right on the nose except once. Sometimes it pays to have twin engines, and now I've got a hi-tech fuel filter system.
These boats have a large turning radius and need help to spin it around. Use sails or judicious backing of the engine in tight quarters.
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