LPG cylinder storage in a Tiki 30?

[Jordi]

Where do you keep your LPG cylinders on your Tiki 30?

The lazarette just aft of the galley seems the most immediate solution, but then... how to get it properly bottom-vented as required by BSS/ABYC/sensible safety rules?

Thanks,

Jordi

[Budget Boater]

I assume you are talking about a standard 10lb or 20lb tank with regulator or similar, and not the 1lb portables for camp stoves.

You can make a vented box for the lazarette, or you can store it outside. Every boat I have ever had, the propane tanks were on deck somewhere. Mono or multi, it didn't matter. You can make a bracket for it that is affixed to the aft side of beam 3.

On our Tiki 30, we cooked inside once. It was simply far too hot to cook in the hull, and condensation from the propane burning wet the walls quickly.

[Jordi]

Thanks Budget Boater.

There are currently two Campingaz 907 bottles in the port lazarette, with a regulator and a hose direct to the galley.

Yes, storing outside may be the most sensible solution. I'll look into solutions for that.

Regards,

Jordi

[Rogerio Martin]

My LGP is into the box below the seat in cockpit with a regulator and a hose free direct to the galley.

[Rogerio Martin]

We don't want to do a "Ply Floor Self Draining" because was one more hole in a hull. So we do in cockpit.

[Jordi]

Thanks Rogerio. Unfortunately I don't have those lockers in the cockpit (which I presume are ventilated at the bottom, so appropriate as a gas cylinder locker). I've considered other places in the open, but the BSS requirement to be 1 meter away from any entrance to the boat makes things difficult...

Edward: that was the idea I had initially, but I am worried that frequent salt water in that locker may cause the gas bottles to rust prematurely. Still looks like the best solution at hand, though.

Will keep thinking. Further ideas/experiences welcome.

[Ricardo Aráoz]

You might put a floor in the locker so as to have some space between the gas bottle and any salt water that enters through the venting hole. OTOH the locker is not 1 meter away from the entrance to the boat.

Jordi said:

Edward: that was the idea I had initially, but I am worried that frequent salt water in that locker may cause the gas bottles to rust prematurely. Still looks like the best solution at hand, though.

Will keep thinking. Further ideas/experiences welcome.

[Jordi]

Thanks Ricardo. I'll probably do that if I decide for the self-draining locker solution. Fortunately the 1-meter rule applies only for cylinders stored in the open, not in locker (then there are other rules relative to the placement of the vent, but no problem here with the solution Edward describes).

[Budget Boater]

Even just a piece of hose, cemented into the hole could work too.

Edward Wolfe said:

It should be simple to add as downward S that would prevent water going up, short of sinking, and still allow the gas to drain down. A few 90deg PVC elbows should do the job. Good luck and please post picture of your final design. 

Jordi said:

but I am worried that frequent salt water in that locker may cause the gas bottles to rust prematurely. Still looks like the best solution at hand, though.

[Jordi]

Thanks. Will take a while -- I'm in planning phase and I don't plan to begin actual work until the weather gets dryer, in April or early May -- but I'll post pics and inform on results.

Edward Wolfe said:

It should be simple to add as downward S that would prevent water going up, short of sinking, and still allow the gas to drain down. A few 90deg PVC elbows should do the job. Good luck and please post picture of your final design. 

Jordi said:

but I am worried that frequent salt water in that locker may cause the gas bottles to rust prematurely. Still looks like the best solution at hand, though.

[Jordi]

About time to report on this, 5 years later: after checking the BSS, I decided to go for an Origo alcohol stove. I use ethanol for chimneys. It's more expensive than propane (I spend 15-20€ in a month-long vacation), but easy to find and does not smell much.