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Paying to crew on someone else's boat?
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This came up recently in an all too brief discussion I had with a poster on this forum, who had been looking for crew for a Transatlantic crossing. I was surprised when told that as crew, apart from…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Robert Hughes Apr 9.

Value of a partially built Tiki 38
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I have come to the sad place where I have to divide assets and move on. One of these is my 3/4 complete Tiki 38. I am trying to find any references to similar Wharram incomplete projects for sale,…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Axel Oct 6, 2014.

A few books for sale...
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1) MULTIHULL VOYAGING, Thomas Firth jones, Pub 1994. Hardback, First Edition, very clean, original cover but has a cracked spine.  He was a regular sailor with the Wharrams, helped with design of…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Axel Dec 20, 2012.

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Robert Hughes replied to Axel's discussion Paying to crew on someone else's boat?
"In addition to potential legal problems in the country where you are operating, my understanding is you can be charged with offences by your flag state, where the boat is registered. For most most ordinary folk that will be their home country.…"
Apr 9
Axel replied to Axel's discussion Paying to crew on someone else's boat?
"Interesting details about the Cheeky Rafiki. Very sad story. I assume the criminal case is against the owners for negligence? I had not yet really considered the liability aspect of charging people to work for you. It must give you responsibility…"
Apr 9
Robert Hughes replied to Axel's discussion Paying to crew on someone else's boat?
"I crewed on the delivery trip of a Pahi 52, from Thailand as far as Egypt.  The arrangement was that the owner paid all costs while on board, we paid our own airfares plus our share of food and drinks ashore.  That seemed fair in the…"
Apr 9
Budget Boater replied to Axel's discussion Paying to crew on someone else's boat?
"From my experience, there are three types of crew positions: • Professional: Crew members are paid by the vessel owner. Expenses may or may not be paid. On board expenses are usually paid, but other expenses are not. Depending on the vessel…"
Apr 9
Marty Peters replied to Axel's discussion Paying to crew on someone else's boat?
"Hi Axel, I think this is a very grey area from what i understand. Yes there are people that will crew on deliveries for free, then there are the crew that are looking for "miles" that will pay for the privilege, and this can range from…"
Apr 9
Axel replied to Thom delForge's discussion Composite Beams
"I'm impressed by the thought and courage in designing and making your own beams. As someone who has made T38 beams I was astounded at how heavy they are once finished. I have not weighed them but I can tell you that 2 strong men can just about…"
Apr 8
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Paying to crew on someone else's boat?

This came up recently in an all too brief discussion I had with a poster on this forum, who had been looking for crew for a Transatlantic crossing. I was surprised when told that as crew, apart from the  job of crewing, I would be expected to pay to work. I understand that as a non-professional sailor one cannot necessarily be expected to actually be paid for crewing but is it common that people pay to crew for someone needing to move a boat? It is not something I had considered at all.  But if…See More
Apr 8
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Axel replied to LARGYALO's discussion LARGYALO looking for transatlantic crew
"FYI; not that there's anything inherently wrong with them doing it this way but initial disclosure might have been worthwhile. When I made an inquiry, I was told that the only real requirement is that you pay $50/day to crew for them. (In fact…"
Apr 8
Axel replied to Robert Hughes's discussion Engineered Carbon Fibre Beams for a Tiki 26
"Great job and fascinating. I think of doing something like this every time I have to rig up a pulley to move my beams around! BTW, the price really doesn't seem too crazy to me for CF custom tubes of that size."
Apr 15, 2016
Axel replied to dave tomlinson's discussion tiki 38 new, extra front beam length?
"I can measure later today but the piece of mast I used was 5m. Incidentally the same length as the piece I used for the rear cross beam."
Apr 11, 2016
Josh left a comment for Axel
"No worries Axel, I'm happy for you! If for some reason you don't continue, please let me know!"
Oct 11, 2014
Axel left a comment for Josh
"Hello Josh, at this point it looks as if I will be able to keep it. I have sent Boatsmith some videos of the project and am awaiting an idea of what it might cost to have it finished. If that doesn't work out I will try to find a another…"
Oct 10, 2014
Axel replied to Axel's discussion Value of a partially built Tiki 38
"Hi David, I sent the link to the videos and commentary to you via the company email/contact address last weekend. Did you get it or should I post it again somewhere else? The Ariki looks great BTW. Alex"
Oct 6, 2014
Tam Dl replied to Axel's discussion Value of a partially built Tiki 38
""I do not want to sound discouraging (because your boat is much closer to completion), but there was a Tiki 38 in California that was 35% complete with 100% materials to complete the wooden structure (no rig, engines, cushions, etc.) and he had…"
Sep 7, 2014
Axel replied to Axel's discussion Value of a partially built Tiki 38
"Thanks. After much discussion and thought, I think we may have be able to arrive at a reasonable, compromise valuation that while I'm sure is more than the market value, will allow me to keep it. Various factors prevent me from doing any of the…"
Aug 16, 2014
Budget Boater replied to Axel's discussion Value of a partially built Tiki 38
"Axel, I am probably the most experienced in this particular arena. There have been quite a few unfinished boats I have purchased or viewed in the past 20+ years, including a dozen or so Wharrams. I do not want to sound discouraging (because your…"
Aug 15, 2014

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Tiki 38
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At 7:49am on September 16, 2009, Jacques said…
Great pictures of your pod. Yes its heavy. With 6 guys (strong) I could manipulate it up and down without crane or loader.
Interesting the reverse thing, i was thinking doing the same and finally stuck to the plans.
Beautiful job.

Jacques
At 12:03pm on October 11, 2014, Josh said…
No worries Axel, I'm happy for you! If for some reason you don't continue, please let me know!

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