Agree with Galway Bay, but nowhere more so than with the Tikiroa design. Generally because the boat is less idiot-proof than the Tiki 26 and probably better suited to spartan adventures in [tropical]ocean-conditions than short steep seas or places where you have to tack a lot.
There was the unladen Austrian Tikiroa that was sailed over in squall-conditions, presumably through deliberately 'pushing the envelope'; there is the short waterline-length and long-keeler type canoe hull form; for the technically-minded the speed/stability formulae from Kelsall/Shuttleworth and the like will reveal that the Tikiroa is more tender than the Tiki 26, especially with the original beam; and so on, all contriving to give the boat a poor reputation.
But hey, second-hand they can cost half the price of a Tiki 26 in the same condition. And properly set up, even with the cutter-rig, there are owners who say they sail just fine. Arguably the cabin-spaces are more versatile than on the Tiki - and so on.
Definitely worth a look? I think so. Even possibly worth building, though I think the design would do well to be a couple of feet longer to get a longer LWL, and it needs a redesigned cockpit. It still seems a heck of a lot of boat for maybe no more than £10K.
Been a bit busy building my own design Pahi (named Pahi iti) since last contributing to this forum and thus have not been able to follow up on requests to show what I was doing. Back when last writing here, I was sailing an outrigger proa (depicted in my avatar) and had built a model of an upsized canoe, a double canoe shunter, which was based on the historic Tuamotu group Pahi shunter and still had ideas of converting a Wharram design to conform to the east Polyneian shunter config.....had plans of a Hinemoa in my posession that came with the tacker or cat canoe 'Owl' that had been a shared project with my son. Since the Hinemoa has distinctive bow and stern ends, a Wharram Pahi would be a better candidate for a proa conversion and a connecting structure, rig and cabin arrangement following Pahi iti style would be a distinct possibility. Just puting this here as a follow-up to previous posts, since I have managed to finally access this page again. Will try and post a pic of Pahi iti on the mainpage next
john elwyn kimber
Agree with Galway Bay, but nowhere more so than with the Tikiroa design. Generally because the boat is less idiot-proof than the Tiki 26 and probably better suited to spartan adventures in [tropical]ocean-conditions than short steep seas or places where you have to tack a lot.
There was the unladen Austrian Tikiroa that was sailed over in squall-conditions, presumably through deliberately 'pushing the envelope'; there is the short waterline-length and long-keeler type canoe hull form; for the technically-minded the speed/stability formulae from Kelsall/Shuttleworth and the like will reveal that the Tikiroa is more tender than the Tiki 26, especially with the original beam; and so on, all contriving to give the boat a poor reputation.
But hey, second-hand they can cost half the price of a Tiki 26 in the same condition. And properly set up, even with the cutter-rig, there are owners who say they sail just fine. Arguably the cabin-spaces are more versatile than on the Tiki - and so on.
Definitely worth a look? I think so. Even possibly worth building, though I think the design would do well to be a couple of feet longer to get a longer LWL, and it needs a redesigned cockpit. It still seems a heck of a lot of boat for maybe no more than £10K.
Sep 10, 2014
Krishna of the Sea
Sep 15, 2016
Jeremy Walker
Been a bit busy building my own design Pahi (named Pahi iti) since last contributing to this forum and thus have not been able to follow up on requests to show what I was doing. Back when last writing here, I was sailing an outrigger proa (depicted in my avatar) and had built a model of an upsized canoe, a double canoe shunter, which was based on the historic Tuamotu group Pahi shunter and still had ideas of converting a Wharram design to conform to the east Polyneian shunter config.....had plans of a Hinemoa in my posession that came with the tacker or cat canoe 'Owl' that had been a shared project with my son. Since the Hinemoa has distinctive bow and stern ends, a Wharram Pahi would be a better candidate for a proa conversion and a connecting structure, rig and cabin arrangement following Pahi iti style would be a distinct possibility. Just puting this here as a follow-up to previous posts, since I have managed to finally access this page again. Will try and post a pic of Pahi iti on the mainpage next
Feb 15, 2021