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Calling all Tangaroa owners! I'd love to see some pics of your cabin interiors...

I plan to modify the interior of my soon to be new Tangaroa MKIV. Currently she has one double bunk and two singles forward. I'd like to add an additional double. For layout ideas I'd love to see how others have done things in their interiors and any insights as to what works well and what doesn't. Of course I will strive to change as little as possible and to apply the K.I.S.S principle whenever possible. I've poured through the pics on the main Wharram site and saved all of the ones that appealed to me so if you have pics already posted there I may already have them.

Thanks in advance! 

Brandon

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Really... no one?

This is the section for  "Any boating or member news. Talk about launches, boat shows, etc."

You'd probably get responses in one of the other discussion sections. 

I changed your category Brandon. Getting pictures out of Wharram sailor can be difficult, especially interior pictures, and even more so on the classic designs.

Personally, I lost the majority of my Tangaroa pictures (before the days of digital photography) to moisture. The only few I have remaining were exterior pics that I had scanned and were posted on one of my original websites many years ago.

Thanks for the help... I had a feeling the responses would be slim but I'd hoped for at least a couple... Bummer on the loss of your pics... How did you like your Tangaroa? How does it compare to the Tiki 38? I can't wait to move aboard Forever Young. I have a few structural/ design questions if you wouldn't mind offering some insights.

I have not yet sailed on a Tiki 38, so I cannot give you a comparison there. I found the Tangaroa quite comfortable, especially at anchor. "Rolly" harbors were quite comfortable on a cat. The Tiki 30 that I built later would track and tack better than the Tangaroa, but that only matters if you are in a hurry.

I will help with any questions you might have.

hi brandon. i knew tangaroa "aorai" interior and in my own tiki 38 and there is no possible compairison between both. interior space of tangaroa is very little, no stand up space; even a tiki 30 is a lot more confortable than a tangaroa. did you search for aorai pics in this place? i think there are some. i'll try to send you sopme if i find them. best. luis

Huh? I have owned and lived on both a Tangaroa MK IV and Tiki 30, as well as building a Tiki 38 now. A Tangaroa is CONSIDERABLY larger than a Tiki 30 and far more comfortable. I could stand up in my Tangaroa, which was built to spec (floor to cabin height), and I am over 6' tall.

By design, the Tiki 38 is considerably more comfortable and spacious than the Tangaroa, and cost more to build too. The three boats simply are not comparable.

luis said:

hi brandon. i knew tangaroa "aorai" interior and in my own tiki 38 and there is no possible compairison between both. interior space of tangaroa is very little, no stand up space; even a tiki 30 is a lot more confortable than a tangaroa. did you search for aorai pics in this place? i think there are some. i'll try to send you sopme if i find them. best. luis

hi budget boater, i didn't sail anyone but visit them for little time; so i'll follow your experienced opinion.

rds

Brandon,

I owned and lived on board my Tangaroa MkIV a few years ago (feels like yesterday but was in fact 14+ years ago!!) I'll get some pics posted at some stage, but she was a well-thought out boat and had plenty of space. I'm sure I have a few photos of her on my page- it's been a while since I've visited this site, but will check anyway. Will be in touch.

Thanks Carl! That would be awesome :)

Brandon my boat is smaller but some general points might help - also my ideas must be influenced by the wet weather here so not so much eating on deck for instance.

If the cook position is below the hatch then he will be always in the way for others. In bad weather everything will also get wet. Place cooker / worktop/ etc all to one side of hatch. To get space for this consider an "L" shaped galley. In rough weather it is good to have everything to hand from one seated position. An "L" does this.  I have never seen it but I would consider raising the seating and worktop to breakfast-bar height. The gain in storage and work space would be great. Also when seated you might look out the window. It is surprisingly gloomy to sit with all the windows above your head.

An "L" shape means you cannot access the rear bunk directly. I have a huge rear below deck locker , much better use of space. You do not need all these berths. Do however keep the one in the other hull. On passage it will have far less motion than the forward ones.

Bunks that fold up can be fine for a bunk not often used, say perhaps a guest berth but are a heart-breaker as a daily chore. Also your main bunk should be in the galley hull. You should not have to climb over wet decks for morning coffee.

Best of luck

Brandon,

I'm adding a few pics showing the interior. The layout was modified from the original Tangaroa design, but by comparison, made a lot of good sense.

Starting aft on the port hull:

Heads (with shower- sit down), helm (under tent- also had battery bank and fridge compressor), galley and saloon, single berth, workshop.

 

Starboard Hull starting aft:

Storage and battery bank, chart table and communications accessed from large double berth, forward single berth, rope locker.

 

I had a Kubota 28hp fitted between the two hulls on an aluminium frame, driving a folding prop. This was house under a "box" which doubled up as a table, or seating.

 

Enjoy!

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