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query on anchoring / deck-beam device (?)

Hi to all,

I was wondering if someone has modified the part where the anchor chain lastly touches the beam (rectius: the device that continues more or less 50 cm ahead of the forebeam, and through which the chain runs) -sorry, don't remember the name in English).

Such device isn't friendly, specially when you have crosswind or cross waves; because the device is very long and the cross force is too much for it and breaks (this happened to me).

Does anyone have the same problem? In the afirmative case, how did you solve it?

thank you.

rds

luis

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Permalink Reply by alex on October 18, 2011 at 7:06am

Hi Luis

I just arrived from 4 month of cruising season ...

I had that same problem when i was anchoring in places with strong tide currents (like Key West in Florida) and some strong cross winds that started after noon.

Due the great windage and reduced displacement of the boat and the crowded anchoring, my boat was the only one that was trying to point to the wind instead to the current. That gave me many headaches since one night i woke up with the screams of the neighbors . my boat was almost hitting theirs.

the best solution i found was to arrange a sail to 'sail' on anchor , so i could manage where to point with the boat. it took me about one week of practice till I found the right solution. I used the storm jib reefed (or you can just roll it to the desired size) and I was setting it between the 2 masts. I took no photos, but next season i will take some and post them here. that way i had no problems with the anchor rode touching any part of the boat ( I need to refit the beam at the fore mast, since the anchor rode was 'carving' a dig on the downside wood with all those direction changes )

where is your boat by the way? i was in Piriapolis but i didn't saw your boat.

Permalink Reply by alex on October 19, 2011 at 6:54am

i was trying a sea anchor made with a big bucket , it works fine if you like to point sharp to the current. but since i was in a tight anchorage and other boats didn't had that, i was forced to 'copy' their position that was influenced by tide and by the wind same time. the sail was the best solution i found in the case of key west anchorage. it was almost self controlled .

Permalink Reply by luis on October 19, 2011 at 10:32am

hi alex,

no pardon for you! ;-)

4 months T38 sailing south from canada to key west and no one pic!!!!! :-(

uruguayan T38 sailors always submit pics and videos to group mates asap... haha!

please, at least share a summary of your T38 debut in north america.

kaimiloa is in puerto sauce, near colonia, west from montevideo.

returning to the subject of the thread, does the chain/rope of the anchor in your T38, works badly and roughly on the sides of the double rod (that protrudes forward from the forebeam through which the chain/rope pass through?) Or even ever broke it or crack ?

rds

luis

Permalink Reply by luis on October 19, 2011 at 11:45am

hi charlie,

tks for your answer; yours seems to be quite stronger, clearly wider (doubled); then, the resistance to breaking is higher.

i realize you have bitts on the bows; do you have pics showing how they are fitted? (no mention to them in original plans)

thank you

rds

luis

Charlie said:

i think it is called a "bow roller".. here is a pic of mine. made from aluminium with rubber rollers. very strong, most likely unbreakable.
alex, i find that a small drouge/sea anchor thing, placed over the stern, helps to keep the tiki from charging around madly on the anchor/mooring. works well in a tidal raceway.

Permalink Reply by luis on October 20, 2011 at 7:04am

tks for your answers, charlie.

and nice sailing for you!

rds

luis

Permalink Reply by luis on October 24, 2011 at 7:45am

tks a lot for the pics and explanations, charlie.

the differences in this point between your catamaran and mine, are that this device is quite wider than the original, so achieves more strength, and additionally, the point where the chain/rope "works" is closer to the beam and not so far from it. then the possibilities to break are lesser. on the other hand, you have lot of storage capacity inside. i like all this but too much modifications to introduce in mine :-(

rds

luis

Permalink Reply by Ganz Daniel on October 24, 2011 at 1:59pm

Hi Louis! did your device break under anchor? did the chain make the damage? when you anchor sits you should bring the anchorload to the bows. easy thing do do with a chainclaw and a rope. so the chain is hanging loose . saludos a uruguay y hasta pronto daniel

Permalink Reply by luis on October 31, 2011 at 6:32am

hi daniel, sorry only today i read your msg. yes, it break under anchor and the chain did the damage. tks for your comment. y gracias por los saludos! rds
luis

Ganz Daniel said:

Hi Louis! did your device break under anchor? did the chain make the damage? when you anchor sits you should bring the anchorload to the bows. easy thing do do with a chainclaw and a rope. so the chain is hanging loose . saludos a uruguay y hasta pronto daniel