Tom Vogt

Male

Fort Mill, SC

United States

Profile Information:

I am:
A home builder
What boat (s) are you building or do you own?
Tiki 38
Country, City, and State?
USA Ft Mill SC
About me or us?
Regular guy. My family (me wife and 3 kids) are moving back to Mexico in a few years and I plan on having a small daycharter/ snorkel business for tourists in the Cancun, Playa del Carmen and Tulum areas.
Looking to?
Start building Tiki 38 Hull#143

Comment Wall:

  • Glenn Tieman

    Hi Tom, thanks for the questions. I love the tama moana and talking about it. The steering paddles had a few problems initially which made them terrible to  handle, both the upper and lower mounting lines bound due to faulty geometry and the worst thing they were simply over-balanced. As I understand it the 'OTILLIA's' owner didn't put the time in to tackle the problems even though the wharrams made it clear that this was an experimental design. I made a number of changes over the years and the rudders/paddles are now very smooth operating, also having advantages over other systems. They can be very quickly raised, in fact unless short tacking I change rudders whenever tacking or jibing and use only one at a time. The version I have are also deep, good for pointing, but kick up with only minor damage (denting) when hitting something. The designers meanwhile have made more dramatic changes and there is also the Amatasi system which may be the best. Anyway my steering is light and effective. Will write more latter.

  • Tom Vogt

    Thanks again Glen. I.wonder.if tjey are including the better modifications in new plans?
    I look.forward to hear about detailed techniques of using the Crab Claw rig and such
    Thanks again
    Tom.Vogt
  • Bertrand FERCOT

    Hello Tom

    We left Panama the 28 April and reached Hiva Oa (Marquises) the 28 may. Unhappily impossible to get a good Web connexion until we have met a very kind familly in the village of Omoa in FatuHiva.

    Now we are in the Tuamotu at anchor beside the motu Totoro (15°33.5S 146°14.5W) on the atoll Apataki. Here is a little shipyard with internet!

    Congratulations to rig your Tiki38 with  a biplane junk rig on unstayed masts. This rig is very easy to handle and you are free to customise the space between the hulls as you want.

    For the masts you have different examples of building on the Junk Rig Association website and so my own examples for my Tiki30 and 46.

    You'll have to reinforce the deck around where will be the mast in puting wood instead foam.

    Concerning my Tiki46, her building has been spread on a long time and I had already  some wood . Withoput the price of the shelter and tools the total cost of the materials has been around 110.000 Euros. In fact the half is for the engines, equipements, ropes, sails and electronic 

    It's a good boat but she needs a lot of work.

    Friendly, Bertrand

  • Glenn Tieman

    Your use of the boat couldn't be more different from mine, and yet I think your idea is a great one. As a day charter boat she would have maximum solid deck space,(the spacers between the decking planks were added to the design before I even built the boat). The great feature would be the brailed sails when she sits on the beach, both because they look so cool, and because you'd only raise the sails in the morning, brail them when not in use and lower them only at night. When you have a trip you (along with the motoring) very easily snap open the sails. You'll have to put in some effort to make the brailing work right, sew guides into the sails for the upper brailing lines. This version of Crab Claw is very efficient, topgun for a real sailor like myself but also seems appropriate for chartering. In the trades I use a small size mainsail so that she needs little attention in a squall, and because the boat is so low drag this is fine, fast. In heavy weather I just add a drogue and leave the sails as they are. For close hauled it's more important to have enough sail up, but nobody except me sails in these conditions. Chartering you will use the small mainsail unless prevailing winds are very light as they are in Philippines, and you can count on using only the big one all day.

    As for the steering paddles - the redesign they used on the lapita with the paddles reduced in depth and farther aft will suit you well. For myself I prefer the original deep farther forward paddles for pointing but this will not be a concern for you.

  • Tom Vogt

    Well Glen, once again thank you for your information and thoughts.
    My son and I will sail the vessel down, while the rest of the family flies.
    I look forward to reading more of what is happening with you soon.
    I plan on setting up a site and blog soon to share the build and our family venture with others.
    Thanks agan
    Tom
  • Bertrand FERCOT

    Hello Tom


    It's a good idea to rig your Tiki38 with a parallel junk rig. As I haven't the building experience of a Tiki38 with a such rig, I'm unable to tell you what to do exactly.


    At first you have to choose the type of junk rig you prefer. After you have two possibilities : to ask to a specialist of the junk rigs as Sunbird Marine to get a sail plan adapted to your boat or you design it yourself with the help of all the documentation of the Junk Rig Association + books + experiences as those I shared on this website and from another junk rigged cats.


    Bertrand