Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T04:41:25Zwakataiteahttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/wakataiteahttps://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1957111930?profile=RESIZE_48X48&width=48&height=48&crop=1%3A1https://wharrambuilders.ning.com/group/crabclawrigg/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=2fm7jeg2r2xio&feed=yes&xn_auth=noCrab Claw Tiki 26tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-07-12:2195841:Topic:1613952018-07-12T10:21:30.340Zwakataiteahttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/wakataitea
<p>I'm planning a Crab Claw rig for my Tiki 26 and have some questions for those with experience, especially Hans Wakataitea. I'm not trying to beat Bermudan performance, just make a good basic, affordable cruising rig. </p>
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<p>1) Best method of attaching the sail tack - directly to the bottom of the mast (Wakataitea) or with the tack forward of the mast (Ontong Java) ?</p>
<p>2) The angle of the sail spars and the plan shape of the sail at the tack - 60 degrees (Wakataitea) or less…</p>
<p>I'm planning a Crab Claw rig for my Tiki 26 and have some questions for those with experience, especially Hans Wakataitea. I'm not trying to beat Bermudan performance, just make a good basic, affordable cruising rig. </p>
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<p>1) Best method of attaching the sail tack - directly to the bottom of the mast (Wakataitea) or with the tack forward of the mast (Ontong Java) ?</p>
<p>2) The angle of the sail spars and the plan shape of the sail at the tack - 60 degrees (Wakataitea) or less ?</p>
<p>3)Curved or straight edges to the plan shape of the sail - straight or curved spars top and bottom?</p>
<p>4) Jib, no jib?</p>
<p>5) Best method of reefing?</p>
<p>I've spent a lot of time searching the net and found lots of very good stuff and now it's time to come up with a compromise design out of all the info that I can actually make and use. It will be very low budget. I'll probably make the mast and spars unless I happen on a lucky find that will suit.</p>
<p>These various differences would be interesting to experiment with. I have good sheltered waters to get plenty of experience with the rig before venturing further.</p>
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<p>Thanks for any help,</p>
<p>Steve</p> How do you design a Crab Claw rig for your boat?tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-12-05:2195841:Topic:1236412014-12-05T22:13:27.179Zwakataiteahttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/wakataitea
<p>I have seen tons of photos and videos of various types of rigs on different types of boats, but unlike the junk rig Bible - Practical Junk Rig - I have yet to find anything that exists for the oldest known sailing rig, the Crab Claw. In fact, I have yet to find any "How to" articles for designing your own crab claw rig.</p>
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<p>Anyone have any resources or ideas?</p>
<p>I have seen tons of photos and videos of various types of rigs on different types of boats, but unlike the junk rig Bible - Practical Junk Rig - I have yet to find anything that exists for the oldest known sailing rig, the Crab Claw. In fact, I have yet to find any "How to" articles for designing your own crab claw rig.</p>
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<p>Anyone have any resources or ideas?</p> tiki46 "wakataitea" crab claw sailtag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-05-20:2195841:Topic:1006422013-05-20T13:07:09.086Zwakataiteahttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/wakataitea
<p>after 20000NM sailing on the oceans, it is time for new sails:</p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Material:</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Challenge High Mass Fiber Weave 9.88</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Lee<font size="4">Sail quote:</font></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US"><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="4">----</font>1 pc Hank-on Jib of…</font></font></span></p>
<p>after 20000NM sailing on the oceans, it is time for new sails:</p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Material:</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Challenge High Mass Fiber Weave 9.88</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Lee<font size="4">Sail quote:</font></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="4">----</font>1 pc Hank-on Jib of 9.4oz USwt dacron, 9.85m luff x 3.9m foot x 8.75m leech, with 2 reefs US$911</font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">----1 pc Battenless Mainsail of 10.3oz USwt dacron, 10.3m luff x 10.3m foot x 10.3m leech, with 2 reefs US$2903</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Sub-total: US$3814</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Less: 10% discount US$381</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Nett: US$3433</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Add: delivery by Fedex to Malaysia US$260</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Grand total, duty & tax excluded: US$3693</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman">Price Validity: 30 days from offer</font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman">Terms: fully paid with order</font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Completion: about 5 weeks</font></span></p>
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Does anyone know of any attempts/tests of a crab claw rig for a Tiki 21? Inspired in part -- I think -- by crewing on Aluna's trip out to Hawaii, <a href="http://tiki26.blogspot.com">Thomas Nielson</a> introduced Mike and me to the idea as we were dreading building a 21.5' round mast out of square timbers (as called for in the plans). <br></br><br></br>Thomas made this sketch a couple weeks ago...<br></br><br></br><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1799494427?profile=original" style="width: 456px; height: 330px;"></img> <br></br>...which I find remarkably similar to the first of Hans' drawings on the comment…
Does anyone know of any attempts/tests of a crab claw rig for a Tiki 21? Inspired in part -- I think -- by crewing on Aluna's trip out to Hawaii, <a href="http://tiki26.blogspot.com">Thomas Nielson</a> introduced Mike and me to the idea as we were dreading building a 21.5' round mast out of square timbers (as called for in the plans). <br/><br/>Thomas made this sketch a couple weeks ago...<br/><br/><img style="width: 456px; height: 330px;" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1799494427?profile=original"/><br/>...which I find remarkably similar to the first of Hans' drawings on the comment wall:<br/><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1799496745?profile=original"/><br/><br/><br/>Glenn Tieman responded a few days ago saying he didn't think much of Thomas' sketch. He recommended sticking to the plans, but unfortunately he didn't offer any brighter ideas about how/whether a crab claw rig could work. What do you all think?<br/><br/>How cool would it be to have an efficient, family-safe, rig that utilized the 12-18' long, 2-4" diameter bamboo poles that are so cheap and prevalent here in non-Tropical Seattle?!<br/><br/>Fair winds,<br/>Scott<br/><br/> Crab Claw informationtag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2009-09-10:2195841:Topic:102442009-09-10T00:25:27.000Zwakataiteahttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/wakataitea
I am going to build a Tehini starting this coming spring and after seeing the crab claw rig I am going to give it a go I love the low tech aspect. Is there somewhere I can get more info on the details? Look forward to hearing from you all.<br />
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Don Hayes
I am going to build a Tehini starting this coming spring and after seeing the crab claw rig I am going to give it a go I love the low tech aspect. Is there somewhere I can get more info on the details? Look forward to hearing from you all.<br />
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Don Hayes