Tiki 30 Tiller arm - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T05:02:47Zhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-30-tiller-arm?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A163895&feed=yes&xn_auth=nops not selling any of my prec…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-11-17:2195841:Comment:1638962018-11-17T21:26:20.382ZIan Rhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanR
<p>ps not selling any of my precious elm!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ian R said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-30-tiller-arm?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A163990&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment163994"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Being in the UK I cannot give any opinion on blue gum, dunno what it is! Must look it up.</p>
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<p>I am a timber/woodwork person but for in- service stuff you need the experienced sailors on here to tell…</p>
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<p>ps not selling any of my precious elm!<br/> <br/> <cite>Ian R said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-30-tiller-arm?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A163990&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment163994"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Being in the UK I cannot give any opinion on blue gum, dunno what it is! Must look it up.</p>
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<p>I am a timber/woodwork person but for in- service stuff you need the experienced sailors on here to tell you what they think, I am just a one-off silly person who built a boat or two and doesn't like bad plans.</p>
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<p>Ash is the allround best timber for tillers, or wych elm which is not available now apart from in my own stocks!</p>
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</blockquote> Being in the UK I cannot give…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-11-17:2195841:Comment:1639942018-11-17T20:53:06.131ZIan Rhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanR
<p>Being in the UK I cannot give any opinion on blue gum, dunno what it is! Must look it up.</p>
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<p>I am a timber/woodwork person but for in- service stuff you need the experienced sailors on here to tell you what they think, I am just a one-off silly person who built a boat or two and doesn't like bad plans.</p>
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<p>Ash is the allround best timber for tillers, or wych elm which is not available now apart from in my own stocks!</p>
<p>Being in the UK I cannot give any opinion on blue gum, dunno what it is! Must look it up.</p>
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<p>I am a timber/woodwork person but for in- service stuff you need the experienced sailors on here to tell you what they think, I am just a one-off silly person who built a boat or two and doesn't like bad plans.</p>
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<p>Ash is the allround best timber for tillers, or wych elm which is not available now apart from in my own stocks!</p> Ive got some planks of blue g…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-11-16:2195841:Comment:1639902018-11-16T06:32:44.802ZAndrew Cassinghamhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AndrewCassingham
<p>Ive got some planks of blue gum hardwood that i was cut some strips out of to laminate up for the arms. Titebond do a waterproof glue or maybe epoxy? and then I was going to cover the lot in epoxy resin. Then to mix it up a bit more use a length of bamboo for the steering arm.</p>
<p>Ive got some planks of blue gum hardwood that i was cut some strips out of to laminate up for the arms. Titebond do a waterproof glue or maybe epoxy? and then I was going to cover the lot in epoxy resin. Then to mix it up a bit more use a length of bamboo for the steering arm.</p> Yes, that's why I told this s…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-11-15:2195841:Comment:1638952018-11-15T20:48:18.453ZIan Rhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanR
<p>Yes, that's why I told this story. Anything I say is not prescriptive, just my own experience. I am not a professional boatbuilder, but I am a professional woodworker (retd, c 40 yrs experience).</p>
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<p>Aside from that, I only use FLAG now, and would rec this to anyone else: based on my experience only of course!</p>
<p>Yes, that's why I told this story. Anything I say is not prescriptive, just my own experience. I am not a professional boatbuilder, but I am a professional woodworker (retd, c 40 yrs experience).</p>
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<p>Aside from that, I only use FLAG now, and would rec this to anyone else: based on my experience only of course!</p> FYI- gluing white oak with An…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-11-15:2195841:Comment:1640962018-11-15T12:54:32.759ZOmar M. Rashashhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/OmarMRashash
<p>FYI- gluing white oak with Any brand of epoxy is problematic. </p>
<p>FYI- gluing white oak with Any brand of epoxy is problematic. </p> Very nice, the round section…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-11-14:2195841:Comment:1635752018-11-14T21:06:07.577ZIan Rhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanR
<p>Very nice, the round section in the spacer at the end of the tiller works very well into the back of the rudder cut-out in practice. It locks down very well. That's a Wharram design winner: ie the design on the Tiki 31 has the tiller socketing over the rudder head, rather than the tiller being shafted into the rudder as on the photo above.</p>
<p>Very nice, the round section in the spacer at the end of the tiller works very well into the back of the rudder cut-out in practice. It locks down very well. That's a Wharram design winner: ie the design on the Tiki 31 has the tiller socketing over the rudder head, rather than the tiller being shafted into the rudder as on the photo above.</p> tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-11-14:2195841:Comment:1635742018-11-14T20:28:13.457ZRogerio Martinhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RogerioMartin
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<p>glued and screew, 2,5x13x190cm timber (x2) with inserts of 3x13x20cm, the last insert have a round finish to fitting in rudder<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Rogerio Martin said:…</cite></p>
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<p>glued and screew, 2,5x13x190cm timber (x2) with inserts of 3x13x20cm, the last insert have a round finish to fitting in rudder<br/> <br/> <cite>Rogerio Martin said:</cite></p>
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<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/135130111?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/135130111?profile=original&width=480" width="480" class="align-full"/></a></p> Hello- my tillers are similar…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-11-14:2195841:Comment:1635702018-11-14T19:23:00.205ZIan Rhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanR
<p>Hello- my tillers are similar to these (Tiki 31). I made the first ones from American white oak, as I happened to have some offcuts around. Even though I degreased the timber, the glue joints failed when I tested them quite violently after the WEST epoxy had cured. I made a new pair with Utile and these are fine. The others were firewood. Utile is lighter, so better, but I am now convinced that we must use local timber wherever possible.</p>
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<p>I think I clamped a big weight to them…</p>
<p>Hello- my tillers are similar to these (Tiki 31). I made the first ones from American white oak, as I happened to have some offcuts around. Even though I degreased the timber, the glue joints failed when I tested them quite violently after the WEST epoxy had cured. I made a new pair with Utile and these are fine. The others were firewood. Utile is lighter, so better, but I am now convinced that we must use local timber wherever possible.</p>
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<p>I think I clamped a big weight to them to bend them. I have silicon bronze pins in them working into oilite plain bearings on the tillerbar.</p>
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<p>So I'm not at all happy now with using woods such as Uitile, and would use European Ash for this if I were to do it again. The ash needs to be quickly converted from logs here in Europe, not sure if dead ash (ie killed by disease) is ok, I have some in my wood and will find out I guess, as the disease is spreading for ash.</p>
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<p>I'd laminate up old good redwood floorboards for that now at a pinch, in between the knots............</p>
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<p>I don't use WEST anymore, good performance, but destructive to human beings.</p>