tiki 21 trailer - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T04:55:24Zhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-trailer?groupUrl=tiki21&commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A168472&xg_source=activity&groupId=2195841%3AGroup%3A10502&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks, Rune. I have mine se…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2020-02-11:2195841:Comment:1710552020-02-11T21:54:18.650ZSteve Burragehttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/SteveBurrage
<p>Thanks, Rune. I have mine set up pretty much ready to go (minus the mast) and just pay the $1/day for a extra wide load permit (here in Canada), which works well for short hops, but to trailer the boat to the Sea of Cortez would not be easy at 12 feet beam! </p>
<p>Thanks, Rune. I have mine set up pretty much ready to go (minus the mast) and just pay the $1/day for a extra wide load permit (here in Canada), which works well for short hops, but to trailer the boat to the Sea of Cortez would not be easy at 12 feet beam! </p> Hi Steve and Rod
I think we a…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2020-02-11:2195841:Comment:1711362020-02-11T10:40:17.676ZRune M. Christensenhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RuneMChristensen
<p>Hi Steve and Rod</p>
<p>I think we assembled the boat 3 or 4 times last year. It varies a bit, but I think it takes 1- 1.5 hours for me and my 15year old son (usual crew) - if there is now unusual complications.</p>
<p>That is with the sail already on the mast and 2 people that know how to do it.</p>
<p>I changed to straps instead of rope lashings last year. Its much easier!</p>
<p>We still need to come up with a better idea for the trampoline lashings. This still takes a fair bit of time to…</p>
<p>Hi Steve and Rod</p>
<p>I think we assembled the boat 3 or 4 times last year. It varies a bit, but I think it takes 1- 1.5 hours for me and my 15year old son (usual crew) - if there is now unusual complications.</p>
<p>That is with the sail already on the mast and 2 people that know how to do it.</p>
<p>I changed to straps instead of rope lashings last year. Its much easier!</p>
<p>We still need to come up with a better idea for the trampoline lashings. This still takes a fair bit of time to do, despite it already being attached to the center beam.</p>
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<p>Rune<br/> <br/> <cite>Rod McLaren said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-trailer?groupUrl=tiki21&xg_source=activity&groupId=2195841%3AGroup%3A10502&id=2195841%3ATopic%3A168383&page=2#2195841Comment171259"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I will be interested to hear how long it takes for Rune to set up his Tiki. Last year, I only set up the Mana once, and then left it assembled on the trailer in the marina parking lot each time I sailed. So I haven't had enough practise to become efficient at the process. There are several differences between the Tiki 21 and the Mana for set-up.The Mana uses straps and over centre cam locks, and has only two crossbeams. The Main mast on the Mana is considerably heavier than a Tiki mast and so I have to use a gin pole and the trailer winch, adding time to the set-up. With a good assistant, it takes about 2 hours to assemble the Mana, ready to launch from the trailer. I expect with some practise, that time could be shortened by half an hour. </p>
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</blockquote> I will be interested to hear…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2020-02-10:2195841:Comment:1712592020-02-10T13:57:41.043ZRod McLarenhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RodMcLaren
<p>I will be interested to hear how long it takes for Rune to set up his Tiki. Last year, I only set up the Mana once, and then left it assembled on the trailer in the marina parking lot each time I sailed. So I haven't had enough practise to become efficient at the process. There are several differences between the Tiki 21 and the Mana for set-up.The Mana uses straps and over centre cam locks, and has only two crossbeams. The Main mast on the Mana is considerably heavier than a Tiki mast and…</p>
<p>I will be interested to hear how long it takes for Rune to set up his Tiki. Last year, I only set up the Mana once, and then left it assembled on the trailer in the marina parking lot each time I sailed. So I haven't had enough practise to become efficient at the process. There are several differences between the Tiki 21 and the Mana for set-up.The Mana uses straps and over centre cam locks, and has only two crossbeams. The Main mast on the Mana is considerably heavier than a Tiki mast and so I have to use a gin pole and the trailer winch, adding time to the set-up. With a good assistant, it takes about 2 hours to assemble the Mana, ready to launch from the trailer. I expect with some practise, that time could be shortened by half an hour. </p> Great trailer! Can I ask how…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2020-02-10:2195841:Comment:1711332020-02-10T05:56:50.360ZSteve Burragehttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/SteveBurrage
<p>Great trailer! Can I ask how long it takes to set up? Do you use the straps instead of ropes for the lashings?</p>
<p>Great trailer! Can I ask how long it takes to set up? Do you use the straps instead of ropes for the lashings?</p> Those pictures clarify your s…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2019-07-23:2195841:Comment:1686342019-07-23T05:26:27.962ZTimohttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/tvaan
<p>Those pictures clarify your setup pretty well, thanks. :) One of my biggest concerns about Wharrams has been how they are so demanding when it's about slipway dimensions. Your sliding trailer with rollers looks like a clever answer to that, expanding trailer sailing range of Tiki 21 significantly when you want to launch into non-tidal waters. Really nice!</p>
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<p>Those pictures clarify your setup pretty well, thanks. :) One of my biggest concerns about Wharrams has been how they are so demanding when it's about slipway dimensions. Your sliding trailer with rollers looks like a clever answer to that, expanding trailer sailing range of Tiki 21 significantly when you want to launch into non-tidal waters. Really nice!</p>
<p></p> You can see the position of t…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2019-07-22:2195841:Comment:1684772019-07-22T11:12:10.145ZRune M. Christensenhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RuneMChristensen
<p>You can see the position of the rollers in the first picture I posted.</p>
<p>Here is a closeup.</p>
<p>Its just standard cheap rubber boat-rollers. I have cut them to the width I wanted. The bottom one carries all the weight. I think the inner diameter is 25mm, and It rolls on a piece of galvanised water pipe.…</p>
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<p>You can see the position of the rollers in the first picture I posted.</p>
<p>Here is a closeup.</p>
<p>Its just standard cheap rubber boat-rollers. I have cut them to the width I wanted. The bottom one carries all the weight. I think the inner diameter is 25mm, and It rolls on a piece of galvanised water pipe.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-trailer?groupUrl=tiki21&#2195841Comment168586"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks for sharing your experiences, Rod and Rune. The rollers sound like a solution to the waterline issue. What kind of rollers do you have on your trailer, Rune? I can't find any in the pictures above.</p>
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</blockquote> I think both Canada and Finla…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2019-07-18:2195841:Comment:1686332019-07-18T16:23:35.431ZTimohttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/tvaan
<p>I think both Canada and Finland "suffer" from short sailing seasons, so now it's better to concentrate on making most of the current one. When you get the rollers incorporated, please, do write something on your blog or post a video. They both are great source of information, especially as you have unique experience in both Tiki 21 and Mana 24. My Wharram catamaran building project is still in an evaluation/planning phase, and actually waiting for couple of other projects to be…</p>
<p>I think both Canada and Finland "suffer" from short sailing seasons, so now it's better to concentrate on making most of the current one. When you get the rollers incorporated, please, do write something on your blog or post a video. They both are great source of information, especially as you have unique experience in both Tiki 21 and Mana 24. My Wharram catamaran building project is still in an evaluation/planning phase, and actually waiting for couple of other projects to be finished...</p> I agree - rollers need to be…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2019-07-17:2195841:Comment:1686322019-07-17T12:51:46.253ZRod McLarenhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RodMcLaren
<p>I agree - rollers need to be part of the set-up. I would like to modify my trailer to incorporate them into the design. It likely won't happen this year - sailing season is short here on the Canadian prairies. </p>
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<p>I agree - rollers need to be part of the set-up. I would like to modify my trailer to incorporate them into the design. It likely won't happen this year - sailing season is short here on the Canadian prairies. </p>
<p></p> Thanks for sharing your exper…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2019-07-17:2195841:Comment:1685862019-07-17T05:31:54.948ZTimohttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/tvaan
<p>Thanks for sharing your experiences, Rod and Rune. The rollers sound like a solution to the waterline issue. What kind of rollers do you have on your trailer, Rune? I can't find any in the pictures above.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experiences, Rod and Rune. The rollers sound like a solution to the waterline issue. What kind of rollers do you have on your trailer, Rune? I can't find any in the pictures above.</p> Very nice Bo.
I wish I had f…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2019-07-16:2195841:Comment:1684722019-07-16T18:28:21.955ZRune M. Christensenhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RuneMChristensen
<p>Very nice Bo.</p>
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<p>I wish I had found your site before :)</p>
<p>It seems we came up with more or less the same position on the trailer for the side decks.</p>
<p>Have you launched the boat from the trailer yet?</p>
<p>It looks like the side boards are bent against the hulls, which could make it not want to slide of?</p>
<p>I have rollers on the side of the cradles, but I am not sure if this absolutely necessary.</p>
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<p>About the slipway, and distance from keel to ground on…</p>
<p>Very nice Bo.</p>
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<p>I wish I had found your site before :)</p>
<p>It seems we came up with more or less the same position on the trailer for the side decks.</p>
<p>Have you launched the boat from the trailer yet?</p>
<p>It looks like the side boards are bent against the hulls, which could make it not want to slide of?</p>
<p>I have rollers on the side of the cradles, but I am not sure if this absolutely necessary.</p>
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<p>About the slipway, and distance from keel to ground on the trailer: That was also my biggest concern.</p>
<p>I have only used one slipway so far, but that went better than I feared. You don't have to float the boat of. As long as there is enough water to carry the back of the boat when it tilts of the back rollers, its okay.</p>
<p>When I pulled it out of the water again the bottom of the bows were about 10cm lower than the back rollers, but it was still easy to pull the boat onto the trailer with the winch. The rear sliding tubes have to be sturdy tho. they carry the whole boat at one point.<br/> <br/> <cite>Bo said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-trailer?groupUrl=tiki21&#2195841Comment168693"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Looks great! I came up with something very similar after getting inspiration from this forum also. I have some details here: <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.monarisa.org/2019/02/21/trailer.html" target="_blank">https://www.monarisa.org/2019/02/21/trailer.html</a></p>
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