Tiki 21 rear trampoline - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T21:35:20Zhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-rear-trampoline?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A114242&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Carl. This is relevant…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-18:2195841:Comment:1143602014-02-18T19:36:49.580ZIan Bamseyhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBamsey
<p>Thanks Carl. This is relevant to my work right now as I build a new central platform to take a Honda 5. I want the motor as low as I can make it, but this makes the hole larger to take the motor coming forward. I've considered the hinge idea but can see a way to make it really tidy, especially as I have a hatch to an enlarged box to take fuel tanks.</p>
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<p>Thanks Carl. This is relevant to my work right now as I build a new central platform to take a Honda 5. I want the motor as low as I can make it, but this makes the hole larger to take the motor coming forward. I've considered the hinge idea but can see a way to make it really tidy, especially as I have a hatch to an enlarged box to take fuel tanks.</p>
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<p>Did you find with the motor down and the larger hole exposed, things fell down? I'm worried by feet getting stuck (especially small boys)</p>
<p></p> Hi Ian,
Yes, a section of th…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-18:2195841:Comment:1142552014-02-18T19:27:54.372ZCarlhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Carl
<p>Hi Ian,</p>
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<p>Yes, a section of the deck in front of the motor was removable, meaning the motor could tilt forward (and clear of the water). I found though that the only time it served its purpose, was when motoring - even then you wanted it out the way for when the wind picked up and the motor could be tilted. What could've worked too is if it had been hinged so that it would've been a simple matter of "opening" or "closing" the section depending on the…</p>
<p>Hi Ian,</p>
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<p>Yes, a section of the deck in front of the motor was removable, meaning the motor could tilt forward (and clear of the water). I found though that the only time it served its purpose, was when motoring - even then you wanted it out the way for when the wind picked up and the motor could be tilted. What could've worked too is if it had been hinged so that it would've been a simple matter of "opening" or "closing" the section depending on the motor.</p>
<p>Cheers<br/> <br/> <cite>Ian Bamsey said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-rear-trampoline?id=2195841%3ATopic%3A113311&page=2#2195841Comment114225"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Carl</p>
<p>I've seen your old pictures of this boat. <span>Was that a removable plate in front of the engine? I'm working a new platform that places a Honda 5 somewhat lower than a standard design. It means it comes forward when the engine is raised. This looks like the problem you may have encountered?</span></p>
<p><span>Let me know if you have any input on this.</span></p>
<p><span>Thanks in advance.</span></p>
<p><span>Ian</span></p>
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</blockquote> That's a useful post Brandon.…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-18:2195841:Comment:1140612014-02-18T07:18:09.719ZIan Bamseyhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBamsey
<p>That's a useful post Brandon.</p>
<p>One thing the I'm planning for the rear tramp is to leave a convenient hole/gap where my outboard prop lines up when raised. I've caught lines and bits of rubbish with the motor before. I want to be able to clear it without needing to go for a swim.</p>
<p>That's a useful post Brandon.</p>
<p>One thing the I'm planning for the rear tramp is to leave a convenient hole/gap where my outboard prop lines up when raised. I've caught lines and bits of rubbish with the motor before. I want to be able to clear it without needing to go for a swim.</p> In regards to the netting bea…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-18:2195841:Comment:1142422014-02-18T04:48:02.788ZBrandon Gamblehttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BrandonGamble
<p>In regards to the netting beam... in my experience a rope is great and simple and works well as a boarding ramp as others have stated. However I was still considering a beam. I've found that when standing on the rear tramp or lifting myself out of the water that I noticed the hulls being pulled together by the rope and my weight (200lbs too many cookies). A beam gives you more deck space and strengthens the structure of the boat. I found that in deciding how far back to go It came down to…</p>
<p>In regards to the netting beam... in my experience a rope is great and simple and works well as a boarding ramp as others have stated. However I was still considering a beam. I've found that when standing on the rear tramp or lifting myself out of the water that I noticed the hulls being pulled together by the rope and my weight (200lbs too many cookies). A beam gives you more deck space and strengthens the structure of the boat. I found that in deciding how far back to go It came down to the size of the beam and whether or not it would interfere with the tillers and if i used Tramp then I would visually give up the lines of the boat back there as seen from on deck. My favorite so far was found on a Aussie T21 I found watching youtube videos I contacted the owner and asked for pics and received many. <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930097897?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930097897?profile=original" width="640" class="align-full"/></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930099542?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930099542?profile=original" width="640" class="align-full"/></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930099719?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930099719?profile=original" width="640" class="align-full"/></a></p> Carl
I've seen your old pictu…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-17:2195841:Comment:1142252014-02-17T21:16:05.216ZIan Bamseyhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBamsey
<p>Carl</p>
<p>I've seen your old pictures of this boat. <span>Was that a removable plate in front of the engine? I'm working a new platform that places a Honda 5 somewhat lower than a standard design. It means it comes forward when the engine is raised. This looks like the problem you may have encountered?</span></p>
<p><span>Let me know if you have any input on this.</span></p>
<p><span>Thanks in advance.</span></p>
<p><span>Ian</span></p>
<p>Carl</p>
<p>I've seen your old pictures of this boat. <span>Was that a removable plate in front of the engine? I'm working a new platform that places a Honda 5 somewhat lower than a standard design. It means it comes forward when the engine is raised. This looks like the problem you may have encountered?</span></p>
<p><span>Let me know if you have any input on this.</span></p>
<p><span>Thanks in advance.</span></p>
<p><span>Ian</span></p> HI Jay,
Yes I saw that, and I…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-17:2195841:Comment:1141272014-02-17T19:18:59.594ZCarlhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Carl
<p>HI Jay,</p>
<p>Yes I saw that, and I have felt the temptation to buy her back! I don't have plans for the trailer, but it is very similar to the design in the Tiki 21 plans, except that it has the "outriggers" which fold out. Great idea!</p>
<p>Whoever buys Tiki Puru will get a good boat that sails fantastically.</p>
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<p>Carl<br></br><br></br><cite>Jay Bennett said:…</cite></p>
<p>HI Jay,</p>
<p>Yes I saw that, and I have felt the temptation to buy her back! I don't have plans for the trailer, but it is very similar to the design in the Tiki 21 plans, except that it has the "outriggers" which fold out. Great idea!</p>
<p>Whoever buys Tiki Puru will get a good boat that sails fantastically.</p>
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<p>Carl<br/><br/><cite>Jay Bennett said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-rear-trampoline?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A114117&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment114312"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Carl I see Tiki Puru on the market again recently. </p>
<p>Do you have any plans from the trailer design; it looks good. </p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Carl said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> Nice tramp. Is that an alumin…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-17:2195841:Comment:1141172014-02-17T09:22:55.085ZJay Bennetthttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JayBennett
<p>Nice tramp. Is that an aluminium piece you used for the front cross beam</p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Robert Sheridan said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-rear-trampoline?id=2195841%3ATopic%3A113311&page=2#2195841Comment113863"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>We have put netting on the front of our tiki 30 and I also put it on my Hinemoa. We used a netting beam between the bows, fitted the netting without the forestay bridle attached…</p>
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<p>Nice tramp. Is that an aluminium piece you used for the front cross beam</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Robert Sheridan said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-rear-trampoline?id=2195841%3ATopic%3A113311&page=2#2195841Comment113863"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>We have put netting on the front of our tiki 30 and I also put it on my Hinemoa. We used a netting beam between the bows, fitted the netting without the forestay bridle attached and tensioned it up. Once the netting was tensioned up we worked out where the bridle needed to go through the netting, wove a bit of control line through netting round the bridle on each side leaving room to allow for netting sagging as you walk on it. We then put a whipping round the control line for added security and cut out the netting and fitted the bridle. We did something similar to allow the mooring lines to pass under the netting from our cleats and for the anchor. Pic below before we added the cut outs for the mooring lines and for lowering the anchor. the cutout for lowering the anchor has a flap we can put over it to make it secure at sea.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930098878?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930098878?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>Kristian Paulsson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-rear-trampoline?id=2195841%3ATopic%3A113311&page=2#2195841Comment113165"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>A back net with rope seems like a good idea. Now I want that too. Another little project for spring...</p>
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<p>Does anyone have the same for the front? I guess the forestay would be in the way a bit, but it would probably work.</p>
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<p>/Kristian.</p>
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</blockquote> Carl I see Tiki Puru on the m…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-17:2195841:Comment:1143122014-02-17T09:20:25.723ZJay Bennetthttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JayBennett
<p>Carl I see Tiki Puru on the market again recently. </p>
<p>Do you have any plans from the trailer design; it looks good. </p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Carl said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Carl I see Tiki Puru on the market again recently. </p>
<p>Do you have any plans from the trailer design; it looks good. </p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Carl said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> We have put netting on the fr…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-13:2195841:Comment:1138632014-02-13T07:23:59.064ZRobert Sheridanhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RobertSheridan
<p>We have put netting on the front of our tiki 30 and I also put it on my Hinemoa. We used a netting beam between the bows, fitted the netting without the forestay bridle attached and tensioned it up. Once the netting was tensioned up we worked out where the bridle needed to go through the netting, wove a bit of control line through netting round the bridle on each side leaving room to allow for netting sagging as you walk on it. We then put a whipping round the control line for added…</p>
<p>We have put netting on the front of our tiki 30 and I also put it on my Hinemoa. We used a netting beam between the bows, fitted the netting without the forestay bridle attached and tensioned it up. Once the netting was tensioned up we worked out where the bridle needed to go through the netting, wove a bit of control line through netting round the bridle on each side leaving room to allow for netting sagging as you walk on it. We then put a whipping round the control line for added security and cut out the netting and fitted the bridle. We did something similar to allow the mooring lines to pass under the netting from our cleats and for the anchor. Pic below before we added the cut outs for the mooring lines and for lowering the anchor. the cutout for lowering the anchor has a flap we can put over it to make it secure at sea.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930098878?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930098878?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>Kristian Paulsson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-rear-trampoline?id=2195841%3ATopic%3A113311&page=2#2195841Comment113165"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>A back net with rope seems like a good idea. Now I want that too. Another little project for spring...</p>
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<p>Does anyone have the same for the front? I guess the forestay would be in the way a bit, but it would probably work.</p>
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<p>/Kristian.</p>
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</blockquote> tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-02-13:2195841:Comment:1137532014-02-13T00:09:51.790ZCarlhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Carl
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