Deck blocks tiki 30 plans - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T06:08:53Zhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/deck-blocks-tiki-30-plans?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A115861&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBudget Boater - yes rock soli…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-29:2195841:Comment:1157782014-03-29T10:21:32.783ZGalway Bayhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/GalwayBay
<p>Budget Boater - yes rock solid in a seaway. Even when I thrashed her at 12kn close reaching into 5ft seas in 20 - 30kn of true wind. I was testing the new beams , I don't normally sail like this.</p>
<p>I would love to be able to claim some credit here, but this is just as JWD designed them so that is where the credit must go.</p>
<p>As John says for frapping to be effective the lashing turns must be long.</p>
<p>Cannot see why JWD didn't just stick with this type of lashing.</p>
<p>Budget Boater - yes rock solid in a seaway. Even when I thrashed her at 12kn close reaching into 5ft seas in 20 - 30kn of true wind. I was testing the new beams , I don't normally sail like this.</p>
<p>I would love to be able to claim some credit here, but this is just as JWD designed them so that is where the credit must go.</p>
<p>As John says for frapping to be effective the lashing turns must be long.</p>
<p>Cannot see why JWD didn't just stick with this type of lashing.</p> Hmmm..... 11'9" would be 141"…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-28:2195841:Comment:1157712014-03-28T13:45:08.356ZRicardo Aráozhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RicardoAraoz
<p>Hmmm..... 11'9" would be 141" x 2.54 = 358.14cm = 3.58 m<br/>Unless I've made some mistake you'll be about 1 5/16" short.</p>
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<p>Hmmm..... 11'9" would be 141" x 2.54 = 358.14cm = 3.58 m<br/>Unless I've made some mistake you'll be about 1 5/16" short.</p>
<p></p> Yeah thanks for the confirmat…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-28:2195841:Comment:1159212014-03-28T13:14:26.638Zjohn jameshttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/johnjames
<p>Yeah thanks for the confirmation 3.61 m that is what I I did was right after some some trouble fumbling around with tape I set my hulls at 11'9" apart roughly now I can get on with building my cross arms beams. We swamp yankees still believe that the rest of the world is going to convert to feet and inches. Again thank you. </p>
<p>Yeah thanks for the confirmation 3.61 m that is what I I did was right after some some trouble fumbling around with tape I set my hulls at 11'9" apart roughly now I can get on with building my cross arms beams. We swamp yankees still believe that the rest of the world is going to convert to feet and inches. Again thank you. </p> Ricardo is rigthtag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-28:2195841:Comment:1156782014-03-28T00:13:20.050ZRogerio Martinhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RogerioMartin
<p>Ricardo is rigth</p>
<p>Ricardo is rigth</p> From centerline of one hull t…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-27:2195841:Comment:1157672014-03-27T22:57:16.203ZRicardo Aráozhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RicardoAraoz
<p>From centerline of one hull to center of cockpit I am measuring from my plans 1.85 mts, so from centerline to centerline it should be 3.70 mts. But if you go with alternative beam lashing method 2 (as per Tiki 26 & 31) then you must allow for the beams to overhang 45mm which means the boat will have 90 mm less width, so the centerline to centerline width would then be 3.61 mts.</p>
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<p>From centerline of one hull to center of cockpit I am measuring from my plans 1.85 mts, so from centerline to centerline it should be 3.70 mts. But if you go with alternative beam lashing method 2 (as per Tiki 26 & 31) then you must allow for the beams to overhang 45mm which means the boat will have 90 mm less width, so the centerline to centerline width would then be 3.61 mts.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/deck-blocks-tiki-30-plans?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A115913&xg_source=activity#2195841Comment115913"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes Golway it's always seemed to me that the lashings on the 30 footer are just too short! there's no possibility of making any frapping turns it all. I don't see any hopes of really getting the lashings tight without using frapping turns and having a bit of distance between the beam and the lower end of where the lashing secured to the hull side. On the 46 footer the lower end of the lashing threads through a toe rail which is a good 14 inches below the beam....... Could any one please confirm the width of a 30 foot tiki , from centerline to centerline,please.</p>
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</blockquote> Yes Golway it's always seemed…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-27:2195841:Comment:1159132014-03-27T22:41:02.382Zjohn jameshttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/johnjames
<p>Yes Golway it's always seemed to me that the lashings on the 30 footer are just too short! there's no possibility of making any frapping turns it all. I don't see any hopes of really getting the lashings tight without using frapping turns and having a bit of distance between the beam and the lower end of where the lashing secured to the hull side. On the 46 footer the lower end of the lashing threads through a toe rail which is a good 14 inches below the beam....... …</p>
<p>Yes Golway it's always seemed to me that the lashings on the 30 footer are just too short! there's no possibility of making any frapping turns it all. I don't see any hopes of really getting the lashings tight without using frapping turns and having a bit of distance between the beam and the lower end of where the lashing secured to the hull side. On the 46 footer the lower end of the lashing threads through a toe rail which is a good 14 inches below the beam....... Could any one please confirm the width of a 30 foot tiki , from centerline to centerline,please.</p> They are rock solid in a seaw…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-27:2195841:Comment:1158612014-03-27T17:09:47.438ZBudget Boaterhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BudgetBoater
<p>They are rock solid in a seaway? Mine "knocked" on a quartering sea, so I switched back to straps.<br/> <br/> <cite>Galway Bay said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/deck-blocks-tiki-30-plans?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A115763&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment115763"><div><p> I don't even use a separate line and just pulled hand tight they are rock-solid.</p>
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<p>They are rock solid in a seaway? Mine "knocked" on a quartering sea, so I switched back to straps.<br/> <br/> <cite>Galway Bay said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/deck-blocks-tiki-30-plans?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A115763&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment115763"><div><p> I don't even use a separate line and just pulled hand tight they are rock-solid.</p>
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</blockquote> I think that the lashings Wha…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-27:2195841:Comment:1157632014-03-27T16:21:43.524ZGalway Bayhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/GalwayBay
<p>I think that the lashings Wharram put on the Pahi are very good. Here is one thing I would not change. There is lots of room between the beam and pad so the frapping pulls the turns in easily to give a Spanish Windlass type tightening effect. I don't even use a separate line and just pulled hand tight they are rock-solid.</p>
<p>I think that the lashings Wharram put on the Pahi are very good. Here is one thing I would not change. There is lots of room between the beam and pad so the frapping pulls the turns in easily to give a Spanish Windlass type tightening effect. I don't even use a separate line and just pulled hand tight they are rock-solid.</p> I don't see how you can tight…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-27:2195841:Comment:1157582014-03-27T10:17:42.813Zboatsmithhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/qe0j3ojqb10
<p>I don't see how you can tighten that lashing tight enough with no frapping turns.</p>
<p>I don't see how you can tighten that lashing tight enough with no frapping turns.</p> Yes, I respect this size, bec…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-03-25:2195841:Comment:1159092014-03-25T23:45:02.856ZRogerio Martinhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RogerioMartin
<p>Yes, I respect this size, becouse I lashing beams inside the block. If I lashing outside hull, this height can be little ( minimum 2,5cm ) </p>
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<p>Yes, I respect this size, becouse I lashing beams inside the block. If I lashing outside hull, this height can be little ( minimum 2,5cm ) </p>
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