Adventure without £££ $$$ - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T21:23:21Zhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/adventure-without?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A120890&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGlenn Tieman said:
Hi Jake,…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-08-30:2195841:Comment:1208902014-08-30T15:14:50.706Zdennis schneiderhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/dennisschneider
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Glenn Tieman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/adventure-without?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A107975#2195841Comment107835"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Jake, I've been at Pohnpei in Micronesia for three years replacing manu lele's rotting crossbeams, platform and mizzen mast among other things. In only three weeks now I'm sailing for SE Asia though finally.</p>
<p>I had a thought on this discussion as well. The…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Tieman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/adventure-without?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A107975#2195841Comment107835"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Jake, I've been at Pohnpei in Micronesia for three years replacing manu lele's rotting crossbeams, platform and mizzen mast among other things. In only three weeks now I'm sailing for SE Asia though finally.</p>
<p>I had a thought on this discussion as well. The first piece about the paper boat was charming but not really without the $$$, considering its a motorboat trip, not a sail in sight. The foundation of attempting to be self- sufficient is getting rid of the internal combustion engine imho.</p>
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</blockquote> What an inspirational story b…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-14:2195841:Comment:1082102013-10-14T05:18:51.338Zpaul andersonhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/paulanderson
<p>What an inspirational story boyo, you have it in yer blood. I remember cycling thru England to Abergevenny in Wales. Those in the valleys said to watch out for those in the hills and vice versa ;-)</p>
<p>What an inspirational story boyo, you have it in yer blood. I remember cycling thru England to Abergevenny in Wales. Those in the valleys said to watch out for those in the hills and vice versa ;-)</p> Hey guys,
Further to the und…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-14:2195841:Comment:1083062013-10-14T01:54:45.996ZShaunhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Shaun
Hey guys,<br />
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Further to the underlaying ethos of this particular thread and especially this paragraph of the quote;<br />
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"The years thunder by, The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it, the tomb is sealed".<br />
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I would like to share with you all a small glimpse into the world of two people for whom I have the utmost respect, admiration, and a deep desire to live up to the benchmark they have set, for the most part unintentionally as they…
Hey guys,<br />
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Further to the underlaying ethos of this particular thread and especially this paragraph of the quote;<br />
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"The years thunder by, The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it, the tomb is sealed".<br />
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I would like to share with you all a small glimpse into the world of two people for whom I have the utmost respect, admiration, and a deep desire to live up to the benchmark they have set, for the most part unintentionally as they have simply lived their lives according to their beliefs and needs.<br />
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They are my Uncle and Aunty, Roger and Barbara, ever since I can recall they have adventured far and wide, on big white water rivers, true wilderness backpacking for weeks at a time, back country snow skiing for weeks at a time, walking/backpacking through places like the northern islands of Japan, again for weeks if not months at a time.<br />
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The first big journey I am aware off was when my grand parents came to Australia as ten pound Poms looking for a better life, my Uncle was about seventeen. When he reached the age of, I think around twenty one, he decided he would go home to Wales, however he had very little or no money, so he simply loaded the two panniers on the front forks, tied his tin cup to the handlebars and set off.<br />
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Australia to Singapore, ferry across to the Malay Peninsular and then cycled for two years all the way back to Wales U.K. Grew a bushy beard along the way and I have never seen him without it, looks a lot like a Continental Indian on the river Ganges. This took place somewhere near the 50,s I guess.<br />
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A week or so ago, they returned to Australia from a push bike journey around Europe somewhere, they were gone for about six months, they've been doing this roughly every five years or so. They were doing their usual remote camping, traveling on their tandem bicycle and simply living simply.<br />
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Big, big, big adventure without the need for a huge amount of cash.<br />
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They are both in the region of eighty to eighty five years of age!!!<br />
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we need to take to heart the words of the quote presented by Paul, we need to embrace the basic desire that drew us to the Wharram designs and design philosophy and we need to look around, find an empty horizon and chase it.<br />
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I can almost guarantee that if or when we reach our mid eighties and we look back at the horizons over which we travelled, we will smile and we will consider every mile, every bump, every challenge, the most rewarding of adventures.<br />
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If we don't chase that horizon, I can almost guarantee that if we make it to our eighties we will read of the adventures of others and cry for the fact we never knew it, we never did it, we never lived it.<br />
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We are collectively owning, building and dreaming of one of the worlds best designed, in my opinion, vessels to take us to those horizons, see you out there!<br />
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Cheers,<br />
Shaun David Bennett said:
Paul I…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-10:2195841:Comment:1080102013-10-10T06:42:33.432Zpaul andersonhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/paulanderson
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>David Bennett said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/adventure-without?xg_source=activity&id=2195841%3ATopic%3A100717&page=2#2195841Comment107995"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Paul I think your quote may have just changed my life.<br/></p>
<p>It is a powerful quote Dave,one I return to more and more to keep on track of the big picture.</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>David Bennett said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/adventure-without?xg_source=activity&id=2195841%3ATopic%3A100717&page=2#2195841Comment107995"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Paul I think your quote may have just changed my life.<br/></p>
<p>It is a powerful quote Dave,one I return to more and more to keep on track of the big picture.</p>
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</blockquote> Hey Glenn,
Thank you again, j…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-10:2195841:Comment:1078712013-10-10T03:58:21.771ZShaunhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Shaun
Hey Glenn,<br />
Thank you again, just received the shipment of plywood today and ordering the bamboo poles tomorrow. I feel like a kid at Christmas, cross beams and steering oars are near done and tomorrow the sheets start to get marked out and cut, holy dooley this is good for the soul!!<br />
Cheers,<br />
Shaun
Hey Glenn,<br />
Thank you again, just received the shipment of plywood today and ordering the bamboo poles tomorrow. I feel like a kid at Christmas, cross beams and steering oars are near done and tomorrow the sheets start to get marked out and cut, holy dooley this is good for the soul!!<br />
Cheers,<br />
Shaun Shaun, some more details then…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-10:2195841:Comment:1079752013-10-10T02:35:22.196ZGlenn Tiemanhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/GlennTieman
<p>Shaun, some more details then. They definitely split unprocessed mainly because they dry and contract around the diaphragms inside which block shrinking radially so they have to split for the wood to shrink. So after splitting them remove the diaphragms but for a ridge around the sides. Also remove the powdery starch and abrade inside with a plastic wire wheel. I used fiberglass braided tubes outside which you can get on the web. This is more expensive but saved a lot of time. When sanding…</p>
<p>Shaun, some more details then. They definitely split unprocessed mainly because they dry and contract around the diaphragms inside which block shrinking radially so they have to split for the wood to shrink. So after splitting them remove the diaphragms but for a ridge around the sides. Also remove the powdery starch and abrade inside with a plastic wire wheel. I used fiberglass braided tubes outside which you can get on the web. This is more expensive but saved a lot of time. When sanding smooth the outside for the glass don't sand too much off at the nodes, just smooth but still swelling, the braided sleeves accommodate this. The bamboo I used for the spars was imported and fumigated; when I use local bamboo I treat it with Timbor solution to kill any bugs in them, before epoxy. Good luck! Glenn</p> Paul I think your quote may h…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-09:2195841:Comment:1079952013-10-09T08:54:56.836ZDavid Bennetthttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/DavidBennett
<p>Paul I think your quote may have just changed my life.<br/> <br/></p>
<p>Paul I think your quote may have just changed my life.<br/> <br/></p> Glenn,
Cheers mate, had not t…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-07:2195841:Comment:1079622013-10-07T13:20:45.364ZShaunhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Shaun
Glenn,<br />
Cheers mate, had not thought of splitting and reforming the bamboo, kind of like a very big fly rod I suppose. I can get bamboo poles sent in from the suppliers on the interweb but I was balking because they warn of longitudinal splits from their curing process, your methodology removes that concern, thank you!<br />
Cheers,<br />
Shaun
Glenn,<br />
Cheers mate, had not thought of splitting and reforming the bamboo, kind of like a very big fly rod I suppose. I can get bamboo poles sent in from the suppliers on the interweb but I was balking because they warn of longitudinal splits from their curing process, your methodology removes that concern, thank you!<br />
Cheers,<br />
Shaun And I triple to hear more abo…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-07:2195841:Comment:1078442013-10-07T03:00:16.360ZGlenn Tiemanhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/GlennTieman
<p>And I triple to hear more about Madagascar, long on the wish list Hans. Thanks for mentioning how the fees went for you, but "trading goods" given away are the same thing. As I said before I see no reason to visit bad people at those islands.</p>
<p>Spars - I used bamboo which I sawed open lengthwise cleaned out and epoxied inside, glued back together, and glass/epoxied outside. Laborious but very, very effective. If you really can't get bamboo here are ideas that I haven't tried. You might…</p>
<p>And I triple to hear more about Madagascar, long on the wish list Hans. Thanks for mentioning how the fees went for you, but "trading goods" given away are the same thing. As I said before I see no reason to visit bad people at those islands.</p>
<p>Spars - I used bamboo which I sawed open lengthwise cleaned out and epoxied inside, glued back together, and glass/epoxied outside. Laborious but very, very effective. If you really can't get bamboo here are ideas that I haven't tried. You might try coastal hibiscus, which is very light, has straight shoots, and very common in the tropics along coasts and rivers, and glass it. Or use some other heavier more structural wood without the glass. I seem to sail not just in the tropics but in the equatorial tropics where it rains everyday so I have to epoxy/glass every exterior surface of all wood. Another option would be to make fiberglass tubes, possibly incorporating carbon. There are newly instructions on the web. Avoid metal because they have to bend a lot and metal fatigues when worked that way. Glenn</p> Hey there Glenn and Hans,
I…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-10-06:2195841:Comment:1076622013-10-06T17:37:22.737ZShaunhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Shaun
Hey there Glenn and Hans,<br />
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I have a question for you guys, I have searched and failed to find relevant information on the making of the crab claw spars. Plenty of thoughts and opinions but little very little of "this is what I/we have used and found workable or otherwise".<br />
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I am at the beginning stages with a Tahiti Wayfarer and here in New Mexico bamboo is not all that common, any words of experience would be greatly appreciated.<br />
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And Hans, I second Paul's request for more about…
Hey there Glenn and Hans,<br />
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I have a question for you guys, I have searched and failed to find relevant information on the making of the crab claw spars. Plenty of thoughts and opinions but little very little of "this is what I/we have used and found workable or otherwise".<br />
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I am at the beginning stages with a Tahiti Wayfarer and here in New Mexico bamboo is not all that common, any words of experience would be greatly appreciated.<br />
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And Hans, I second Paul's request for more about Madagascar.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
Shaun