A mad romp tacking & shunting cat..... half cat half proa. - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T12:02:42Zhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/a-mad-romp-tacking-shunting-cat-half-cat-half-proa?feed=yes&xn_auth=noIan R said:
Asymmetry is ve…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2021-04-01:2195841:Comment:2874872021-04-01T19:38:49.273ZDean Wilkersonhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/DeanWilkerson
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ian R said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/a-mad-romp-tacking-shunting-cat-half-cat-half-proa#2195841Comment287710"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Asymmetry is very zen and zen (ie wabi sabi) is very wharram in the "first and second age" of wharrams I think, but maybe not so much in the current production form, which may or may not be the "third age of wharrams", I don't know.</p>
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<p>Today I was just reading…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Ian R said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/a-mad-romp-tacking-shunting-cat-half-cat-half-proa#2195841Comment287710"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Asymmetry is very zen and zen (ie wabi sabi) is very wharram in the "first and second age" of wharrams I think, but maybe not so much in the current production form, which may or may not be the "third age of wharrams", I don't know.</p>
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<p>Today I was just reading Yrvind's thoughts on biplane and adjustable mast rigs which he demonstrates with his balsa models as he builds his latest mini-yacht, his 5.6m canoe yawl. <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="http://www.Yrvind.com" target="_blank">www.Yrvind.com</a></p>
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<p>Yrvind is 81 and still voyaging in his self- designed and self- built boats and today mentions he built a proa in 1964. In case you don't know about him, it's all there on his website.</p>
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<p>I follow it regularly, his philosophy is the same as mine and he has a lot of good practical ideas he works up from scratch.</p>
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<p>We generally have far too much stuff which is basically useless and this is at the core of Yrvind's ideas. As we get older many of us want to strip it all out.</p>
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<p>I don't have a TV either......</p>
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<p>Cheers Ian</p>
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<p>Ian: asymmetry is not what it's about. It's the logical conclusion of a design process. The process began with the idea of integrating the pod with one hull, and making it a "half pod" The idea being that you could have shelter from the storm, easy deck access, and the ability to access one hull without going outside while still retaining flexibility. One thing led to another, and it seemed logical as there would be a broad access fore and aft.... about half the deck, to arrange things so you could always have the pod to the windward side...... or windward side if you wanted ventilation, shade, etc. That led to bidirectionality, which naturally led to the Harry Proa type rudder system, and necessitates fore and aft masts or one in center. Fore an aft masts on one hull does not make sense to me when the hulls are equal, and that leads to a forward mast on the windward hull, aft mast on the leeward hull.... assuming you are sailing with the pod to windward.... maximizing forward view. It was all a logical progression that could only lead to one conclusion. The masts themselves are really not asymmetrical , only the pod. It all makes some sense....... assuming the rudder / leeway system will stand up to ocean travel. There is some satisfaction in being able to pull in and back out. The satisfaction of bidirectional sailing.....no rules... whatever is convenient. Shunting would be optional.........so would tacking. Take your pick.</p>
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</blockquote> Asymmetry is very zen and zen…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2021-03-31:2195841:Comment:2877102021-03-31T19:07:41.579ZIan Rhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanR
<p>Asymmetry is very zen and zen (ie wabi sabi) is very wharram in the "first and second age" of wharrams I think, but maybe not so much in the current production form, which may or may not be the "third age of wharrams", I don't know.</p>
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<p>Today I was just reading Yrvind's thoughts on biplane and adjustable mast rigs which he demonstrates with his balsa models as he builds his latest mini-yacht, his 5.6m canoe yawl. …</p>
<p>Asymmetry is very zen and zen (ie wabi sabi) is very wharram in the "first and second age" of wharrams I think, but maybe not so much in the current production form, which may or may not be the "third age of wharrams", I don't know.</p>
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<p>Today I was just reading Yrvind's thoughts on biplane and adjustable mast rigs which he demonstrates with his balsa models as he builds his latest mini-yacht, his 5.6m canoe yawl. <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="http://www.Yrvind.com" target="_blank">www.Yrvind.com</a></p>
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<p>Yrvind is 81 and still voyaging in his self- designed and self- built boats and today mentions he built a proa in 1964. In case you don't know about him, it's all there on his website.</p>
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<p>I follow it regularly, his philosophy is the same as mine and he has a lot of good practical ideas he works up from scratch.</p>
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<p>We generally have far too much stuff which is basically useless and this is at the core of Yrvind's ideas. As we get older many of us want to strip it all out.</p>
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<p>I don't have a TV either......</p>
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<p>Cheers Ian</p>
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