All Discussions Tagged 'roller' - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T06:46:47Zhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=roller&feed=yes&xn_auth=noroler jib or hank on with a aditional reef on a tiki 30?tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-09-17:2195841:Topic:1625002018-09-17T12:02:07.913ZBarthttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Bart
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I need new sails so now is the moment to choose.</p>
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<p>I have a roller jib. with witch i have two or 3 problems.</p>
<p>The most important one is the (lack of) profile when reefed. it has the shap of a shopping bag in the front part, witch makes it practicly unusable when sailing upwind in 18 knots wind and more.</p>
<p>I really want a good sail sailing upwind!</p>
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<p>Is this because the sail is to old or is this the case with all roller jibs?</p>
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<p>How…</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I need new sails so now is the moment to choose.</p>
<p></p>
<p>I have a roller jib. with witch i have two or 3 problems.</p>
<p>The most important one is the (lack of) profile when reefed. it has the shap of a shopping bag in the front part, witch makes it practicly unusable when sailing upwind in 18 knots wind and more.</p>
<p>I really want a good sail sailing upwind!</p>
<p></p>
<p>Is this because the sail is to old or is this the case with all roller jibs?</p>
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<p>How do you think about a hank on jib, with a line to pul it down and a reef in it ( same style as the mainsail)</p>
<p>Better upwind performance, less stuff witch can fail.</p>
<p>You have to cover the jib wen done sailing ar put it inside..</p>
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<p>Who has a roller jib and is happy with the reefed upwind performance?</p>
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<p>thanks for your help!</p>
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<p>Regards Bart</p>
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<p></p> Roller reefing for small catstag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-10-14:2195841:Topic:1371922015-10-14T13:45:19.816ZDan Hammondhttps://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/DanHammond
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<p>I thought I'd share some experience of setting up my Hitia 17 “Lilla My” with a roller reefing jib in case it is useful to others. I have certainly found it worked well for me over a summer of camp cruising and some more leisurely day sailing since.</p>
<p>I used a roller system made by Rob Helyar at Flexible Reefing Spars (you can find them online) - this has a flexible tubular spar in a thin luff pocket in the jib, with the forestay running through the tube. The swivels and drum…</p>
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<p>I thought I'd share some experience of setting up my Hitia 17 “Lilla My” with a roller reefing jib in case it is useful to others. I have certainly found it worked well for me over a summer of camp cruising and some more leisurely day sailing since.</p>
<p>I used a roller system made by Rob Helyar at Flexible Reefing Spars (you can find them online) - this has a flexible tubular spar in a thin luff pocket in the jib, with the forestay running through the tube. The swivels and drum are standard parts from Allen. The challenge on a cat is what to mount the bottom swivel and drum on. Rob and, via him, Allen were extremely helpful here, designing and fabricating a bespoke part – a drum mounting plate to link the forestay bridle and forestay / swivel to. This allows the drum to be held in place without spinning and includes a fairlead for the furling line.</p>
<p>I did have to adapt the standard Hitia 17 rigging set up a little:</p>
<p>- shorter wires for the forestay bridle, to compensate for the width of the drum mounting plate<br/> - setting the rake of the mast by adjusting the length of a line which ties the top of the forestay to the mast, rather than by a lashing at the foot of the forestay as the design would have it. This is a bit of a pain to set up – involving raising and lowering the mast to adjust it until you have it right, but I've only had to do it once, so not too much of an issue. I leave the loop of line at the top tied to the correct length and when I raise the mast, I pull the tension into the rig with a few turns of line temporarily around the bottom end of one side of the forestay bridle and the u-bolt in the bow it attaches to, and then fit the shackle that fixes it permanently in place.</p>
<p>Overall, I was extremely pleased with how the whole system operated. It was incredibly useful having a reliable roller system for sailing single-handed and meant I really did feel fully in control of things, even sailing in quite confined spaces on my own - being able to roll most of the jib away just leaving a scrap up to help ease you into a quay or beach is great. Being able to reef the jib really helps keep the balance of the boat with a heavily reefed main.</p>
<p>When I de-rig the boat, the jib can be left rolled onto the spar, which coils up tightly enough to fit in the back of my car.</p>
<p>The one significant problem I did have with it, was that the base of the cam cleat supplied for the furling line cracked only a few days into the trip. I think this probably happened because of the angle at which the furling line runs - I don't think the cleat is designed to have any significant tension on the wire fairlead at the front, but the line tended to pull upward on this when I was reefing. I found a simple clam cleat with a fairlead worked fine and was much more robust option - they are good bit cheaper too. Incidentally, I have also ended up changing the Barton clam cleats I fitted for my jib sheets for big open clam cleats, which I found much easier to use - maybe a case of keep it simple stupid, for this scale and style of boat at least.</p>
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