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Comment by robert van leeuwen on November 4, 2013 at 1:09am

Hi Galway,

Am interested to see your pahi mounted on a trailer. Do you rely on cranes to get it on and off or do you use some other less obvious way of loading/unloading?

regards, rob

Comment by Galway Bay on November 4, 2013 at 3:29am

Rob - I just float it on / off. The "Trailer" is really more "Trolley" that is it has no suspension or brakes, quick and cheap and light to make and it does not break my heart to see it immersed in salt water occasionally.  Tows fine behind a 1600kg van. Under the new [2013] EU law this may not be road legal but no great difficulty as it can be run up on the back of the sort of rig that delivers mobile homes and moved economically. This is an approach more people might consider.

I assemble afloat and find this easy.

Comment by robert van leeuwen on November 4, 2013 at 4:00am

Hi Galway, thanks for your prompt reply. Brilliant but now I'm wondering how you manage the hulls individually to float on and off or do you move the hulls closer together at waters edge, attach shortened 'beams' and then wait for tide before floating the reassembled boat onto trailer?

 

Comment by Galway Bay on November 4, 2013 at 12:02pm

I never move one hull. Boat is always either afloat on wide crossbeams or on trailer with short ones. Short ones are simply 2.4 M of 150 x 50 planks. I find it very easy to change beams afloat. Work in deep water from the deck. I use two full length planks [4.8 M @ 150 x 50] as temporary crossbeams when widening / reducing as the permanent beams are too snug a fit and more freedom is better. Also the various fittings etc. stop them sliding freely. The boat is stable ashore or afloat in this state. I have pictures of my crew / helpers moving freely about the decks afloat with only the short beams. I never need cradles. The trailer is basically just an A frame with 4 heavy boards [150 x 100] bolted across for the boat to sit on with stops on first and last to stop sideways movement.

Trying to do it standing on a beach in waist high water is impossible.  I can do everything except fit the cockpit alone. I used a crane only once....1992.

Comment by Galway Bay on November 4, 2013 at 12:10pm

PS..When widening / reducing I fix the temp. beams firmly one side and do all the work from the other deck - and carry a plank cut exactly to fit across between the hulls resting on the inner full length rubrail  to make a safe + convenient crossing / work platform until decking is fitted.

Comment by robert van leeuwen on November 4, 2013 at 8:21pm

ok I'm getting the picture but one thing that would concern me is when you move the unlashed hull closer to the other lashed hull and you say you are standing on top - how is this done without either hull falling over? does everything stay in place without lashings on the one hull you? sorry I may be a bit dim here

Comment by Galway Bay on November 5, 2013 at 3:36am

Loose lashings allow you to slide the hulls along in perfect safety. Perhaps 5 cm too loose. Tied off securely just too loose.  Work the lashing out along the beam then slide the hull after it as far as it will go - about 20 cm.  Repeat and it takes about 30 min in all. I use 2 beams and work each in turn. My beams are in troughs which keep them upright. Otherwise use 100 x 75  it will be more stable. You do not re-tie at each move just slide the lashing along.

Comment by robert van leeuwen on November 5, 2013 at 8:33am
Ok got it I think, thanks - am considering a pahi31 for sale so was interested in its obvious trailerability. Appreciate your help Galway and in fact find all your input on the small pahi forum interesting, cheers
Comment by Galway Bay on November 5, 2013 at 11:57am

Robert - I kinda guessed there might be something like that in your head...Yes you can do a lot at this size on your own and be very independent.... not really a trailer-sailer more something you can take home for the winter or haul up the slip to work on. Thanks for the kind words.

Comment by Ian on November 5, 2013 at 3:29pm

Thanks Galway Bay for that very interesting info: I am just fiddling with sketches for short beams to get me below Nottingham on the river Trent to the wider locks in spring. I had to shift a hull at a time by road for trailing as even with both hulls lashed together on a trailer it would still be about 100mm over permitted width and I had a long way to go on the motorways -  I try not to break rules these days as I want a quiet life (done all the other stuff).  I think certainly  that two hulls would  have been too much for my single axle trailer, though I agree that keeping two together must be a better option for stability. I have had to peg down the one still on its trailer in advance of recent storms. I had one blown off a light trailer in a very big storm a while ago with almost no damage at all (just a cracked hatch coaming) which says a lot for their construction design.

It's very useful to know this can be done. Nice looking boat.

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