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we spend the last 12 month sailing from the Philippines to Thailand. we meet a lot of wharrams on the way.... sadly, 80 % of all this boat are in pieces and resting on the hard.
we saw in thailand: 1 pahi 50, 2 tiki30+, 2 tiki46, 1 tiki21and in the Philippines 1 tiki38 out of order...
we spoke to some (new) owners, the boats where not old, 5-7 years old but often for many month "out off order..."
what is it with this wharram community? do we like building, fixing, playing with new construction ideas then sailing...? i find this quite depressing.
i hope you are not getting lost in details and will sail on the ocean soon..
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This is the group what I don't like to participate, but I'm in...may 12 TikiRio do 2 years of build. In start my idea is 10 or 12 months. After, goes to 15 months, but now we don't have money to do a boat like my imagine. And we will do 24 months. Just one more...just a little money more. But is true I will sailing. Sailing to north, to Fernando de Noronha for surf, and before we go to caribe, if the boat don't sell in this trip. we go to west, Panama, Marquesas, Fiji, NZ and round world. See you in water, with TikiRio or another Wharram.
Hans, I think this thing may also be true for other boats? I also think the spirit of adventure and the idea of living a life on the sea seems to appeal to people like say with the hippies? People now seem to think they need to be millionaires to go cruising. Also i am sure you would have found not too many young people cruising? It seems it is only wealthy retirees that are cruising?
I hope to sail away in my small cat one day too, I did not build this boat to sit and rot.I will sail away, that is for sure.
yes that right... the "young people are missing. when i started sailing in 1999 ( i was 30 years old) there where more of them... but a lot of this "old and retired people are still fit and young in there mind and i look up to them. still on the way in this age...
of course, there are many other boats hanging around on a boatyard. but i look all the time on the horizon and on the hard for wharram sailors. to meet them and to talk to them.
since we are here in asia, we meet most time abandoned ships...
i want to make clear. i am not talking about new build wharram projects or old once who need a total refit. ...
This is so sad to hear.I wonder if a lot of those abandoned wharrams are from tourist businesses gone bust?
i just bought a prout 37 hull and deck,that never got beyond the fwd bulkheads,then hassat in a boat yard for the last 20 years unfinished!
the guy bought it when he was in his 40's spent a lot of money on equipment,did a bit of work on it,then ended up caring for his mother,then his father,then his brother who all got sick and died......puff! 20 years of his life gone......sad for him,but i got a great deal.
as to why so many boats sit,in our case after 20 years cruising and 2 circumnavigations,it was time for our 2 children to have a proper education.
so here we sit in the mud,with 4 boats now,2 creeks down from james and hanneka!
For sure it is not just Wharrams. The industry average was quoted here recently as 100 hours use for the first year 50 in the second and 20 hours per year after. That last figure would equate to three daysails a year. One thing I always admired about Wharram sailors was that they seemed much more likely to make a voyage than most other sailors and I think this is still true - although those averages are not hard to beat !!
Many people seem to think you [or at least they] can buy a dream. A boat is just a posession. If you are a vibrant and interesting person you will lead a vibrant and interesting life whereever you are. If you are a boring old fart and buy / build a boat you will just be a boring old fart who owns a boat. Ooops there goes the last friend I had in the world...
My wife and I will be spending 2 months in Thailand and Cambodia from mid October to mid December of this year. We would love to see some of the Wharrams on the hard. If you have a list of boats and locations you could send my way, we would really appreciate it! Thanks!
go to phuket (chalong), and satun PSS boatyard. thailand nad langkawie (telaga). you will find then everywhere.........
if you pas by in new zealand, there is a bay just before the Auckland bridge, on the right hand side when you drive into town. it is full of "rotten" wharrams....
Thanks for the info! Will you be around that part of the world in October?