wheel steering - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T10:26:10Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/wheel-steering-1?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A163737&feed=yes&xn_auth=notag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-26:2195841:Comment:1636372018-10-26T08:13:54.374ZForrest Nicholshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/ForrestNichols
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930108834?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930108834?profile=original" width="256" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930108834?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930108834?profile=original" width="256" class="align-full"/></a></p> I had the same issue on my 40…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-26:2195841:Comment:1637372018-10-26T08:05:12.750ZForrest Nicholshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/ForrestNichols
I had the same issue on my 40 foot Tangaroa. The previous owner had "solved" the problem of the slack cable by putting a section of elastic on each cable to take the slack out during turns. I didn't like this solution, so I fabricated a pair of quadrants out of plywood, and installed them on the rudders. now my cables maintain the same tension for all rudder angles!
I had the same issue on my 40 foot Tangaroa. The previous owner had "solved" the problem of the slack cable by putting a section of elastic on each cable to take the slack out during turns. I didn't like this solution, so I fabricated a pair of quadrants out of plywood, and installed them on the rudders. now my cables maintain the same tension for all rudder angles! Ok. Thanks, I found Your pr…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-15:2195841:Comment:1632542018-10-15T06:34:06.899ZOlli Väänänenhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/OlliVaeaenaenen
<p><br/> <br/> Ok. Thanks, I found Your previous post quite useful! I know now how I will arrange it.</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> Ok. Thanks, I found Your previous post quite useful! I know now how I will arrange it.</p>
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</blockquote> Olli, there is no more useful…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-13:2195841:Comment:1633202018-10-13T01:51:06.334ZAxelhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Axel
<p>Olli, there is no more useful detail on the 'centre deck' sheet. </p>
<p>Olli, there is no more useful detail on the 'centre deck' sheet. </p> Actually, I did some measurin…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-07:2195841:Comment:1632252018-10-07T16:34:29.804ZOlli Väänänenhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/OlliVaeaenaenen
<p>Actually, I did some measuring again, and realised that 35 degrees does not make the tiller go that far over the side after all!<br></br>Now I measured the travel of the tiller bar, and I figured it would be 180 cm (six feet) from one extreme to the other. If the drum diameter would be 100 mm (4 inches), then one turn of the wheel would give 31,4 cm rope. For 180 cm the wheel would need to turn nearly six full turns. How many turns do you think your wheel would need to swing the rudders from one…</p>
<p>Actually, I did some measuring again, and realised that 35 degrees does not make the tiller go that far over the side after all!<br/>Now I measured the travel of the tiller bar, and I figured it would be 180 cm (six feet) from one extreme to the other. If the drum diameter would be 100 mm (4 inches), then one turn of the wheel would give 31,4 cm rope. For 180 cm the wheel would need to turn nearly six full turns. How many turns do you think your wheel would need to swing the rudders from one extreme to the other? With a 5 inch drum it would take 4,5 turns of the wheel (providing the tiller bar movement is 6 feet),</p> Olli,
Although they referenc…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-07:2195841:Comment:1633982018-10-07T15:00:02.166ZAxelhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Axel
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<p>Although they reference the plans sheet, I dot think it shows much of the rudder detail. But I will look at it again to be sure. </p>
<p>On the 38 the steering line runs around a drum with several turns for friction. The drum is connected directly to the wheel. The diameter is roughly 100cm. A larger drum will provide more travel per rotation of the wheel. I can send you the detail pictures of the actual drum arrangement, I can't help you with maximum rudder angle or…</p>
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<p>Although they reference the plans sheet, I dot think it shows much of the rudder detail. But I will look at it again to be sure. </p>
<p>On the 38 the steering line runs around a drum with several turns for friction. The drum is connected directly to the wheel. The diameter is roughly 100cm. A larger drum will provide more travel per rotation of the wheel. I can send you the detail pictures of the actual drum arrangement, I can't help you with maximum rudder angle or other information as my boat is apart for moving.</p>
<p>As for the excursion of the tillers, I plan to cut my tillers just inboard of the attachment point for the tiller bar once it's all together to minimize the tiller's travel across the deck. The ends of the tillers don't do anything as far as I can see. That may help solve the problem of the tiller sweep and deck contact.</p>
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<p>Hopefully someone with a completed boat can step in to answer the other questions. </p> One more thing: what would th…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-06:2195841:Comment:1631172018-10-06T17:26:40.267ZOlli Väänänenhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/OlliVaeaenaenen
<p>One more thing: what would the maximum rudder angle be? I realised that if the rudder is turned 35 degrees, the tiller connection bar nearly touches the rear deck, and the tiller protrudes very far outside the hull. Actually the tiller hits the wall of the shed where I am building, so I can't turn the rudder that far at the moment! </p>
<p>One more thing: what would the maximum rudder angle be? I realised that if the rudder is turned 35 degrees, the tiller connection bar nearly touches the rear deck, and the tiller protrudes very far outside the hull. Actually the tiller hits the wall of the shed where I am building, so I can't turn the rudder that far at the moment! </p> Thank you, I really do apprec…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-06:2195841:Comment:1632082018-10-06T06:57:43.672ZOlli Väänänenhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/OlliVaeaenaenen
<p>Thank you, I really do appreciate this (I've been checking my e-mail every few hours in anticipation of your message!). I have been thinking of attaching the ropes to the tiller connection bar, too. But my problem is that in my present wheel arrangement the length of the rope the wheel gives (and takes) is too short, as the tiller connection bar travels quite a long distance. I probably will have to make changes to my wheel arrangement. Do you think you still could scan the sheet "centre…</p>
<p>Thank you, I really do appreciate this (I've been checking my e-mail every few hours in anticipation of your message!). I have been thinking of attaching the ropes to the tiller connection bar, too. But my problem is that in my present wheel arrangement the length of the rope the wheel gives (and takes) is too short, as the tiller connection bar travels quite a long distance. I probably will have to make changes to my wheel arrangement. Do you think you still could scan the sheet "centre deck structural designs", please. This might give some useful ideas, too!</p> Here you go Olli, hope this h…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-06:2195841:Comment:1632002018-10-06T01:13:54.984ZAxelhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Axel
<p>Here you go Olli, hope this helps.</p>
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<p>Here you go Olli, hope this helps.</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930107777?profile=original" target="_self">20181005_185240.jpg</a></p> Great, Axel, I'm really lo…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2018-10-05:2195841:Comment:1629782018-10-05T05:11:14.834ZOlli Väänänenhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/OlliVaeaenaenen
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Great, Axel, I'm really looking forward to see the layout!<br/>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Great, Axel, I'm really looking forward to see the layout!<br/>
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