what's the best way to fit firmly the lashings beteween hulls and beams? - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T23:03:20Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/whats-the-best-way-to-fit?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A18479&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI personally wouldn't use sta…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-06:2195841:Comment:1406322016-03-06T19:30:08.857ZBrett Parkerhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BrettParker
<p>I personally wouldn't use stainless fittings like these if I was sailing offshore but coastally might be alright. Metal fatigue would be my concern. But if they are well over spec. and you have some good webbing give it a go! Or maybe just use these fittings on the outside lashings. I made up stainless steel caps on the beam tops to stop the rope working into the wood on my t 30 and then used wedges for the final tightening. This was a good system and easy to tighten again when nec.</p>
<p>I personally wouldn't use stainless fittings like these if I was sailing offshore but coastally might be alright. Metal fatigue would be my concern. But if they are well over spec. and you have some good webbing give it a go! Or maybe just use these fittings on the outside lashings. I made up stainless steel caps on the beam tops to stop the rope working into the wood on my t 30 and then used wedges for the final tightening. This was a good system and easy to tighten again when nec.</p> http://http://www.metaltis.fr…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-04:2195841:Comment:1405432016-03-04T15:43:00.274Zlaurenthttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/laurent
<p><a href="http://http://www.metaltis.fr/tendeur-a-cliquet-inox-800-kg.html" target="_blank">http://http://www.metaltis.fr/tendeur-a-cliquet-inox-800-kg.html</a></p>
<p>lashing and unlashing the beams take quite a long time :</p>
<p>What do you think ok this solution , made in inox , very good quality ( not the sheap one in supermarket , for 26 "…</p>
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<p><a href="http://http://www.metaltis.fr/tendeur-a-cliquet-inox-800-kg.html" target="_blank">http://http://www.metaltis.fr/tendeur-a-cliquet-inox-800-kg.html</a></p>
<p>lashing and unlashing the beams take quite a long time :</p>
<p>What do you think ok this solution , made in inox , very good quality ( not the sheap one in supermarket , for 26 "</p>
<p><a href="http://www.metaltis.fr/tendeur-a-cliquet-inox-800-kg.html" target="_blank">http://www.metaltis.fr/tendeur-a-cliquet-inox-800-kg.html</a></p> Salut Alain
Merci, j'avais en…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-08-29:2195841:Comment:1059992013-08-29T20:59:28.659ZBertrand FERCOThttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BertrandFERCOT
<p>Salut Alain</p>
<p>Merci, j'avais envisagé de faire un détour par la Casamance, mais un ami rencontré au Portugal qui y avait séjourné plusieurs fois nous avais refroidi en disant que maintenant les procédures administratives d'autorisation de séjour s'étaient considérablement alourdies et que c’était devenu la galère. Mais tout est encore possible, à Las Palmas j'avais acheté un guide de la région au cas où.....</p>
<p>Bonne navigation en Thaîlande, j'espère qu'un jour nous irons y faire un…</p>
<p>Salut Alain</p>
<p>Merci, j'avais envisagé de faire un détour par la Casamance, mais un ami rencontré au Portugal qui y avait séjourné plusieurs fois nous avais refroidi en disant que maintenant les procédures administratives d'autorisation de séjour s'étaient considérablement alourdies et que c’était devenu la galère. Mais tout est encore possible, à Las Palmas j'avais acheté un guide de la région au cas où.....</p>
<p>Bonne navigation en Thaîlande, j'espère qu'un jour nous irons y faire un tour.</p>
<p>Bertrand</p>
<p></p> Salut Bertrand,
Super ta mét…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-08-28:2195841:Comment:1057502013-08-28T04:41:50.678ZShundohttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/shundo
<p>Salut Bertrand, </p>
<p>Super ta méthode et avec les photos c'est encore plus explicite ! c'est ce que je cherchais pour reprendre la tension sur mon 38', aussi merci :)</p>
<p>Je suis votre parcours et c'est bien sympa de vous savoir "déjà" au soleil des canaries, c'est dommage que vous n'alliez pas avant le cap vert faire un tour au Sénégal et ses fleuves le Saloum et surtout la Casamance où l'acceuil sera sûrement plus chaleureux que celui aux Antilles mais bon d'un autre côté on ne peut…</p>
<p>Salut Bertrand, </p>
<p>Super ta méthode et avec les photos c'est encore plus explicite ! c'est ce que je cherchais pour reprendre la tension sur mon 38', aussi merci :)</p>
<p>Je suis votre parcours et c'est bien sympa de vous savoir "déjà" au soleil des canaries, c'est dommage que vous n'alliez pas avant le cap vert faire un tour au Sénégal et ses fleuves le Saloum et surtout la Casamance où l'acceuil sera sûrement plus chaleureux que celui aux Antilles mais bon d'un autre côté on ne peut sûrement pas aller de partout !</p>
<p>Bon vent </p>
<p>Alain</p> Tks for your reply Bertrand a…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-08-22:2195841:Comment:1053612013-08-22T18:53:53.615Zluishttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/luis
<p>Tks for your reply Bertrand and all the best for you all.</p>
<p>Remember that in Uruguay you can stay as long as you want, withour limit; only an annual fee after 9 months of stay.</p>
<p>Rds</p>
<p>Luis</p>
<p>Tks for your reply Bertrand and all the best for you all.</p>
<p>Remember that in Uruguay you can stay as long as you want, withour limit; only an annual fee after 9 months of stay.</p>
<p>Rds</p>
<p>Luis</p> Hi Luis. I think we'll stay u…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-08-22:2195841:Comment:1055282013-08-22T18:24:16.759ZBertrand FERCOThttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BertrandFERCOT
<p>Hi Luis. I think we'll stay until mid September around La Gomera which is for us the best place in Canaries to stay at anchor with the possibility to return in the very quiet and welcome harbour of Tazacorte (on La Palma) if necessary. After we want to visit a few islands of the Cap Verde archipelago before to cross toward the Martinique in November.</p>
<p>We appreciate very much this long stop here, we began to enjoy the sea people life and we try to learn to speak Spanish.</p>
<p>As…</p>
<p>Hi Luis. I think we'll stay until mid September around La Gomera which is for us the best place in Canaries to stay at anchor with the possibility to return in the very quiet and welcome harbour of Tazacorte (on La Palma) if necessary. After we want to visit a few islands of the Cap Verde archipelago before to cross toward the Martinique in November.</p>
<p>We appreciate very much this long stop here, we began to enjoy the sea people life and we try to learn to speak Spanish.</p>
<p>As Marie-Helene is not ready to sail threw south America channels we'll not heading to the Brazil (and one other obstacle : now the Brazil refuse to European boats to stay more than 3 months). Our plan now is to pass threw the Panama canal next February.</p>
<p>So in a few years when we'll sail back in Atlantic, perhaps by south America, I hope we'll can visit you.</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
<p>Bertrand</p>
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<p></p> Hi Bertrand, tks for your int…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-08-21:2195841:Comment:1055192013-08-21T19:27:22.561Zluishttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/luis
<p>Hi Bertrand, tks for your interesting comments on this issue. I see you are in canaries; your next plans are to sail towards SW, I suppose. Did you already decided whether more W than S or more S than W ;-)</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Luis</p>
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<p>Hi Bertrand, tks for your interesting comments on this issue. I see you are in canaries; your next plans are to sail towards SW, I suppose. Did you already decided whether more W than S or more S than W ;-)</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Luis</p>
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<p></p> For our Tiki46 I've used the…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-08-21:2195841:Comment:1053332013-08-21T08:06:49.066ZBertrand FERCOThttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BertrandFERCOT
<p lang="" style="page-break-inside: avoid;" xml:lang=""><font size="2" style="font-size: 11pt;">For our Tiki46 I've used the same method as with our previous Tiki30 in turning the rope around a lever . But if it was OK for the Tiki30, with the Tiki46 the efforts are greater and especially when sailing in bad weather with steep cross waves.</font></p>
<p lang="" style="page-break-inside: avoid;" xml:lang=""><font size="2" style="font-size: 11pt;">I change of method in using a rectangular piece…</font></p>
<p style="page-break-inside: avoid;" lang="" xml:lang=""><font style="font-size: 11pt;" size="2">For our Tiki46 I've used the same method as with our previous Tiki30 in turning the rope around a lever . But if it was OK for the Tiki30, with the Tiki46 the efforts are greater and especially when sailing in bad weather with steep cross waves.</font></p>
<p style="page-break-inside: avoid;" lang="" xml:lang=""><font style="font-size: 11pt;" size="2">I change of method in using a rectangular piece of wood of about 60 x 30 x 900mm with a hole at 100mm from one end. I use a 10mm rope for the lashings and a 8 mm rope for the frapping turns. So after to have attach the frapping rope around the lashing turns, I proceed half turn by half turn : the rope is passed through the hole + 1 turn around the lever and the end of the lever is apply on the lashing rope just below the frapping turns.</font></p>
<p style="page-break-inside: avoid;" lang="" xml:lang=""><font style="font-size: 11pt;" size="2">Now I can get a very great tension easier because the lever can't twist and I can concentrate all my effort on the tension. It's more easy to explain with pictures :</font></p>
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<p style="page-break-inside: avoid;" lang="" xml:lang="">Bertrand</p> Perhaps there are more comple…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-04-11:2195841:Comment:711882012-04-11T17:32:40.606Zkim whitmyrehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/kimwhitmyre
<p>Perhaps there are more complex knots, but it's hard to beat 2 round turns and a half-hitch, Paul. Another is a buntline hitch, though it will take needle-nose pliers to get it undone once it has been tightened in use.</p>
<p>Perhaps there are more complex knots, but it's hard to beat 2 round turns and a half-hitch, Paul. Another is a buntline hitch, though it will take needle-nose pliers to get it undone once it has been tightened in use.</p> I prefer to use double braid…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-04-09:2195841:Comment:713102012-04-09T19:13:02.717Zboatsmithhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/qe0j3ojqb10
<p>I prefer to use double braid polyester line for the lashing turns. This will stretch about 3-5%. For the frapping turns I like to use spectra . It is very low stretch and very slippery. I also will spray the lashings and frappings with dish soap to make it all more slippery. This enables me make the lashings very tight indeed.</p>
<p>I prefer to use double braid polyester line for the lashing turns. This will stretch about 3-5%. For the frapping turns I like to use spectra . It is very low stretch and very slippery. I also will spray the lashings and frappings with dish soap to make it all more slippery. This enables me make the lashings very tight indeed.</p>