What configuration for maximum speed performance? - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T22:41:31Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/what-configuration-for-maximum-speed-performance?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'm not a fan of speed at sea…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-10-10:2195841:Comment:1369352015-10-10T08:38:31.836ZBlanc Jean-Paulhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BlancJeanPaul
<p>I'm not a fan of speed at sea, but I like to work well a sailboat. A few years ago, I designed and built the little brother of my future catamaran with similar dimensions to Tiki21 and the same spirit of construction. I have been at a gathering of wharrams compare with Tiki21 his qualities, and I must say, on equal terms, I was more powerful. I also always with the same small catamaran make the connection between two islands to the average of 8.5 knots.…</p>
<p>I'm not a fan of speed at sea, but I like to work well a sailboat. A few years ago, I designed and built the little brother of my future catamaran with similar dimensions to Tiki21 and the same spirit of construction. I have been at a gathering of wharrams compare with Tiki21 his qualities, and I must say, on equal terms, I was more powerful. I also always with the same small catamaran make the connection between two islands to the average of 8.5 knots. <a href="http://archiprog.blogspot.fr/p/premiere-construction.html" target="_blank">I refer you to my page on my blog with the photo of the little brother</a>.</p>
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<p>Je ne suis pas fan de vitesse en mer, mais j'aime faire bien marcher un voilier. Il y a quelques années, j'ai conçu et construit le petit frère de mon futur catamaran avec les dimensions similaires au Tiki21 et le même esprit de construction. j'ai pu lors d'un rassemblement de wharrams comparer avec un Tiki21 ses qualitées, et je dois dire que à conditions égales, j'étais plus performant. j'ai également toujours avec le même petit catamaran effectuer la liaison entre deux iles à la moyenne de 8.5 noeuds. <a href="http://Je%20ne%20suis%20pas%20fan%20de%20vitesse%20en%20mer,%20mais%20j'aime%20faire%20bien%20marcher%20un%20voilier.%20Il%20y%20a%20quelques%20ann%C3%A9es,%20j'ai%20con%C3%A7u%20et%20construit%20le%20petit%20fr%C3%A8re%20de%20mon%20futur%20catamaran%20avec%20les%20dimensions%20similaires%20au%20Tiki21%20et%20le%20m%C3%AAme%20esprit%20de%20construction.%20j'ai%20pu%20lors%20d'un%20rassemblement%20de%20wharrams%20comparer%20avec%20un%20Tiki21%20ses%20qualit%C3%A9es,%20et%20je%20dois%20dire%20que%20%C3%A0%20conditions%20%C3%A9gales,%20j'%C3%A9tais%20plus%20performant.%20j'ai%20%C3%A9galement%20toujours%20avec%20le%20m%C3%AAme%20petit%20catamaran%20effectuer%20la%20liaison%20entre%20deux%20iles%20%C3%A0%20la%20moyenne%20de%208.5%20noeuds.%20je%20vous%20renvoie%20%C3%A0%20ma%20page%20sur%20mon%20blog%20avec%20la%20photo%20du%20petit%20fr%C3%A8re." target="_blank">je vous renvoie à ma page sur mon blog avec la photo du petit frère.</a></p> I've got an old hobie 18 it's…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-10-09:2195841:Comment:1369302015-10-09T22:54:52.133Zjohn jameshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/johnjames
<p>I've got an old hobie 18 it's quite fast and very uncomfortable and you can have it for a song</p>
<p>I've got an old hobie 18 it's quite fast and very uncomfortable and you can have it for a song</p> Then don't choose a Wharramtag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-10-09:2195841:Comment:1369232015-10-09T16:36:49.485ZBjörnhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Bjorn
<p>Then don't choose a Wharram</p>
<p>Then don't choose a Wharram</p> As I recall, Wharram narrowed…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-10-09:2195841:Comment:1367532015-10-09T15:03:12.748Zkim whitmyrehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/kimwhitmyre
As I recall, Wharram narrowed the beam to hull length on the Pahi 52, and the tama moana : moar faster! Of course, just like with a car, it helps to tighten the "nut behind the wheel." /:)
As I recall, Wharram narrowed the beam to hull length on the Pahi 52, and the tama moana : moar faster! Of course, just like with a car, it helps to tighten the "nut behind the wheel." /:) I know this is a bit of an ol…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-09-25:2195841:Comment:1365192015-09-25T21:05:29.080ZAllen Boselyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AllenBosely
<p>I know this is a bit of an old thread, but thought I'd toss out an idea.</p>
<p>Early on when I was figuring out which Wharram to build for my situation, which change for the better and I'm building a Narai Mk IV now.</p>
<p>But I talked with Hanneke about stretching the Tanenui 2'-6" midship, and raising the deck to height bulwarks and the cabin 2", she said it wouldn't be a problem to do so. </p>
<p>The Tanenui is one the Slimline designs mentioned above. It won't have standing headroom,…</p>
<p>I know this is a bit of an old thread, but thought I'd toss out an idea.</p>
<p>Early on when I was figuring out which Wharram to build for my situation, which change for the better and I'm building a Narai Mk IV now.</p>
<p>But I talked with Hanneke about stretching the Tanenui 2'-6" midship, and raising the deck to height bulwarks and the cabin 2", she said it wouldn't be a problem to do so. </p>
<p>The Tanenui is one the Slimline designs mentioned above. It won't have standing headroom, but would have about 5'-6" headroom built as such.</p>
<p>I don't know how fast she would be but I would think she would get up and go pretty good.</p>
<p>Anyway, just food for thought.</p>
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<p>Cheers, Allen</p>
<p></p> Hello Jean-Luc
A big boat has…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-03-17:2195841:Comment:1279212015-03-17T08:49:23.884ZBertrand FERCOThttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BertrandFERCOT
<p>Hello Jean-Luc</p>
<p>A big boat has a higher potential of speed but she is more difficult to handle and is very very more expensive.</p>
<p>I enjoyed very much my previous Tiki30 with her Swing Wing rig very easy to handle. The canoe shape of the bottom hull accept to be overloaded, but not too much to keep a minimum of clearance under the bridge deck.</p>
<p>Even if you don't care much about comfort, if you want to sail offfshore it's important to build a light pod. If not you'll be wet…</p>
<p>Hello Jean-Luc</p>
<p>A big boat has a higher potential of speed but she is more difficult to handle and is very very more expensive.</p>
<p>I enjoyed very much my previous Tiki30 with her Swing Wing rig very easy to handle. The canoe shape of the bottom hull accept to be overloaded, but not too much to keep a minimum of clearance under the bridge deck.</p>
<p>Even if you don't care much about comfort, if you want to sail offfshore it's important to build a light pod. If not you'll be wet and cold quicly and it's not good for your security. In the Pacific the crew aboard their high sea catamarans lived not in the hulls but on the central deck under a shelter as a pod.</p>
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<p>Good luck</p>
<p>Bertrand</p>
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<p></p> Thank you again for the repli…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-03-10:2195841:Comment:1272772015-03-10T17:23:01.762ZJean Luc Massiccihttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JeanLucMassicci
<p>Thank you again for the replies. Every opinion is precious ;)</p>
<p>Thank you again for the replies. Every opinion is precious ;)</p> Check my youtube clips, then…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-03-08:2195841:Comment:1270112015-03-08T15:13:33.765ZWaveDancer & Bellahttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/WaveDancer
<p>Check my youtube clips, then you know:</p>
<p>It is a stretched Tiki of 33 foot. We did many times 14+ knots. But it depends the seaconditions re. waves. Tiki 30's are capable to make passages very well.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Znjasc5N98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Znjasc5N98…</a></p>
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<p>Check my youtube clips, then you know:</p>
<p>It is a stretched Tiki of 33 foot. We did many times 14+ knots. But it depends the seaconditions re. waves. Tiki 30's are capable to make passages very well.</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Znjasc5N98" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Znjasc5N98</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49EyuAQYDJw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49EyuAQYDJw</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtkiDt-JHqI" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtkiDt-JHqI</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbIM26cAHWM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbIM26cAHWM</a></p>
<p>WD is sold now to a enthusiastic young sailor, I wish him fair winds! The "old" man does retreat himself to the Philippines. But who knows, may be I'll put up a new boatproject in due time. For the time beeing I strain my motorbike and my cameras. Cheers Wave</p>
<p></p> I have experience sailing the…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-03-07:2195841:Comment:1270952015-03-07T15:35:24.482ZBob Boishttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BobBois
<p>I have experience sailing the Tiki 30 but no experience with fitting out for an ocean crossing. I would defer to others to comment on the boat's payload limits for voyaging. The Fercots crossed the Atlantic in their Tiki 30 and seemed to have no problems with payload.</p>
<p>In addition, JWD states the Tiki 30 can go anywhere, but it's not luxurious. It is camping on a boat.</p>
<p>Look forward to seeing how you progress with your plans!</p>
<p>I have experience sailing the Tiki 30 but no experience with fitting out for an ocean crossing. I would defer to others to comment on the boat's payload limits for voyaging. The Fercots crossed the Atlantic in their Tiki 30 and seemed to have no problems with payload.</p>
<p>In addition, JWD states the Tiki 30 can go anywhere, but it's not luxurious. It is camping on a boat.</p>
<p>Look forward to seeing how you progress with your plans!</p> A little off topic but, if yo…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-03-06:2195841:Comment:1268272015-03-06T17:15:01.809ZKristian Paulssonhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/KristianPaulsson
<p>A little off topic but, if you were to sail a Tiki 30 alone or maybe as a couple across the Atlantic (or any other ocean), would the load carrying be a problem? I know you can load it up with "stuff" and "toys", but I mean water, food, fuel, sail, etc..</p>
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<p>A little off topic but, if you were to sail a Tiki 30 alone or maybe as a couple across the Atlantic (or any other ocean), would the load carrying be a problem? I know you can load it up with "stuff" and "toys", but I mean water, food, fuel, sail, etc..</p>
<p>/Kristian</p>