Wharram Tiki 38 on eBay UK - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T13:00:49Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/wharram-tiki-38-on-ebay-uk?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A39004&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThat would be the honorable t…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-09:2195841:Comment:413912011-07-09T12:27:57.037ZJeff Kittlehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JeffKittle
<p>That would be the honorable thing to do.</p>
<p>Since you can't say for sure if another boat had been built from the plans, and the owner had purchased them from someone else, there is no way of knowing if you are "legal" or not. I don't think you'll be able to purchase the missing portions from Wharram without assuring him that no other boat has been built with the same hull number. Unless you're very confident in how the boat should be put together it'd probably be smarter to buy new…</p>
<p>That would be the honorable thing to do.</p>
<p>Since you can't say for sure if another boat had been built from the plans, and the owner had purchased them from someone else, there is no way of knowing if you are "legal" or not. I don't think you'll be able to purchase the missing portions from Wharram without assuring him that no other boat has been built with the same hull number. Unless you're very confident in how the boat should be put together it'd probably be smarter to buy new plans.</p>
<p>Just be sure to have your offer reflect the 1350 pounds you'll be shelling out for the new plans.</p>
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<p>Sue</p> Thanks guys for your help.
Al…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-08:2195841:Comment:412932011-07-08T22:02:13.962ZPaul Dewinghttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/PaulDewing
<p>Thanks guys for your help.</p>
<p>All I saw were 2 plans and 2 build books.</p>
<p>I did not see any number and obviously there is a lot missing.</p>
<p>I am a boat builder and have baught plans before, which arroused my suspisions.</p>
<p>I have contacted Wharram and they are asking for more info, which I cannot provide.</p>
<p>I guess the way forward, is to make the owner a bid and then buy a full set of plans from Wharram.</p>
<p>Any comments?</p>
<p>Thanks guys for your help.</p>
<p>All I saw were 2 plans and 2 build books.</p>
<p>I did not see any number and obviously there is a lot missing.</p>
<p>I am a boat builder and have baught plans before, which arroused my suspisions.</p>
<p>I have contacted Wharram and they are asking for more info, which I cannot provide.</p>
<p>I guess the way forward, is to make the owner a bid and then buy a full set of plans from Wharram.</p>
<p>Any comments?</p> If the plans are complete the…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-08:2195841:Comment:410082011-07-08T13:27:12.282ZAxelhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Axel
If the plans are complete they should include a sail plan and a unique hull number. Maybe these plans were used for another build, maybe the sail plans are just missing?
If the plans are complete they should include a sail plan and a unique hull number. Maybe these plans were used for another build, maybe the sail plans are just missing? Hi Paul,
Our Tiki 46 plans…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-08:2195841:Comment:410052011-07-08T01:23:51.099ZJeff Kittlehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JeffKittle
<p>Hi Paul,</p>
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<p>Our Tiki 46 plans came in a black folder which had the hull number taped to the outside. Inside, there were 2 books - a general building instruction guide which also had the hull number on it, and a large bound book that had more detailed instructions. There were also 10 large sheets of detailed plans. The last one of these sheets was the sail plan.</p>
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<p>Hope this helps</p>
<p>Sue</p>
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<p>Hi Paul,</p>
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<p>Our Tiki 46 plans came in a black folder which had the hull number taped to the outside. Inside, there were 2 books - a general building instruction guide which also had the hull number on it, and a large bound book that had more detailed instructions. There were also 10 large sheets of detailed plans. The last one of these sheets was the sail plan.</p>
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<p>Hope this helps</p>
<p>Sue</p>
<p> </p> Hi all,
Am new here.
Have jus…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-07:2195841:Comment:410902011-07-07T21:34:48.728ZPaul Dewinghttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/PaulDewing
<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Am new here.</p>
<p>Have just looked at boat!</p>
<p>It is very straight and well done meaning good hulls and beams. (needs a few things re-doing, but small).</p>
<p>I have seen the plans and they were baught from a person in S.Africa. The plans and drawings do not include a sail or rigging plan! Is this normal?</p>
<p>Each plan that is sold should have a sail no. correct or not?</p>
<p>If so where is the sail no. recorded.</p>
<p>I want to buy this boat, but some info is…</p>
<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Am new here.</p>
<p>Have just looked at boat!</p>
<p>It is very straight and well done meaning good hulls and beams. (needs a few things re-doing, but small).</p>
<p>I have seen the plans and they were baught from a person in S.Africa. The plans and drawings do not include a sail or rigging plan! Is this normal?</p>
<p>Each plan that is sold should have a sail no. correct or not?</p>
<p>If so where is the sail no. recorded.</p>
<p>I want to buy this boat, but some info is missing I think.</p>
<p>Can anyone help me?</p>
<p>Paul</p> It appears as though it did n…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-06-29:2195841:Comment:400012011-06-29T22:20:10.255ZBudget Boaterhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BudgetBoater
It appears as though it did not sell - No Bids. I wonder if it has been relisted somewhere?
It appears as though it did not sell - No Bids. I wonder if it has been relisted somewhere? If the cabin tops are not sin…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-06-27:2195841:Comment:391622011-06-27T04:21:36.790ZJeff Kittlehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JeffKittle
<p>If the cabin tops are not single skin and the beam materials are according to plans, then the price looks good for new material. Of course that assumes proper construction techniques/fillets/glass etc. Check to make sure the beams aren't binding or crooked. I would say that a beam that is too short would be more of a problem than a beam that is long(I have a saw I can loan you). If I say something wrong hopefully I'll be corrected by the forum. We have a 46 not a 38 so there are others who…</p>
<p>If the cabin tops are not single skin and the beam materials are according to plans, then the price looks good for new material. Of course that assumes proper construction techniques/fillets/glass etc. Check to make sure the beams aren't binding or crooked. I would say that a beam that is too short would be more of a problem than a beam that is long(I have a saw I can loan you). If I say something wrong hopefully I'll be corrected by the forum. We have a 46 not a 38 so there are others who know more about this boat.</p> I don't know if the drawing r…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-06-26:2195841:Comment:394982011-06-26T15:25:17.748Zboatsmithhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/qe0j3ojqb10
I don't know if the drawing referenced above is to scale or not. If it is there is not any room for padding or bracing.
I don't know if the drawing referenced above is to scale or not. If it is there is not any room for padding or bracing. I have just loaded my Tiki 30…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-06-26:2195841:Comment:394972011-06-26T15:22:14.669Zboatsmithhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/qe0j3ojqb10
I have just loaded my Tiki 30 into a container to transport it to Maritius.We used a crane and 6 men to accomplish the task. It was not easy. I can't even imagine how much more difficult it would be to move a T38 upside down at an angle into the hull. It will not be possible to load the hulls onto a sled and push it in as the doors are narrower than the inside. My thought is that a T38 won't fit into one container. Certainly not with the decks and pods.…
I have just loaded my Tiki 30 into a container to transport it to Maritius.We used a crane and 6 men to accomplish the task. It was not easy. I can't even imagine how much more difficult it would be to move a T38 upside down at an angle into the hull. It will not be possible to load the hulls onto a sled and push it in as the doors are narrower than the inside. My thought is that a T38 won't fit into one container. Certainly not with the decks and pods. <a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930084187?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930084187?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930086120?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930086120?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930088269?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930088269?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930090270?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930090270?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930092619?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930092619?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930094539?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930094539?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a> I agree with Axel. I actually…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-06-22:2195841:Comment:391102011-06-22T17:08:31.740ZRon Hallhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RonHall
<p>I agree with Axel. I actually think the hulls are the easiest part of the build. Building all of the center structures, fitting everything together, painting and painting and painting, and assembling the boat and the rig is not trivial, and will take you much longer than you think. Having said that, having the hulls up and the beams in is a very good start.</p>
<p>I also had some concerns with the pix.</p>
<p>The coachroof looks like a single skin and is not adequately bonded to the sides.…</p>
<p>I agree with Axel. I actually think the hulls are the easiest part of the build. Building all of the center structures, fitting everything together, painting and painting and painting, and assembling the boat and the rig is not trivial, and will take you much longer than you think. Having said that, having the hulls up and the beams in is a very good start.</p>
<p>I also had some concerns with the pix.</p>
<p>The coachroof looks like a single skin and is not adequately bonded to the sides. It may be that they were intending to mold the core and outer skin on the inner skin already in place, then trim the completed top and tab it into place, which would be OK, but several days worth of work, particularly if it has not been tabbed insside.</p>
<p>I assumed the mast beam (the one protruding into the cabin) needed to be cut off, and the beam trough installed on the side of the hull. This is a little extra work, but doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with the build. However, it does indicate that the beam troughs haven't been shimmed (to level the beams) and that is a lot of work, and indicates the beams are not in their final positions.</p>
<p>The number two beam appears thinner at the end than mine. The beam curvature allows the beam to stick up even or slightly above the hull on the outside, and these do not do that. I can't tell if this indicates the beams weren't built to plans (or that they won't be alright even if they weren't) but it bears looking at more closely. I also noticed the solid inserts haven't been put into the beams, and the holes for the beam pins haven't been drilled in the beams or in the beamtroughs. Don't underestimate the amount of hours required to get the hulls level and parallel, level the beamtroughs, and place and pin the beams.</p>
<p>But the build still looks good overall, and I wouldn't discourage anyone from having a closer look. I don't see anything that can't be fixed.</p>
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<p>Ron</p>