wharram firepit - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T10:23:13Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/wharram-firepit?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A140597&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSome basic concerns:
1. The…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-04-06:2195841:Comment:1413062016-04-06T22:48:00.615ZBudget Boaterhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BudgetBoater
<p>Some basic concerns:</p>
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<p>1. The fire pit is directly under the gaff foresail. An ember and/or the sustained heat rising into the sail could become a serious issue for the sail</p>
<p>2. The fire pit is directly adjacent, and in close proximity, to kiln dried wooden decks which could light easily under the right circumstances.</p>
<p>3. The fire pit is placed between two engine boxes that contain gasoline and batteries, both with highly flammable gasses.</p>
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<p>Some basic concerns:</p>
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<p>1. The fire pit is directly under the gaff foresail. An ember and/or the sustained heat rising into the sail could become a serious issue for the sail</p>
<p>2. The fire pit is directly adjacent, and in close proximity, to kiln dried wooden decks which could light easily under the right circumstances.</p>
<p>3. The fire pit is placed between two engine boxes that contain gasoline and batteries, both with highly flammable gasses.</p>
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<p>Most people with charcoal grills on their boats forget that the grills are located aft and outboard, away from just about everything flammable. The Wharram fire pit is located in the center of the boat in the vicinity of many flammables. It is not a smart idea. The one thing every Navy sailor learns from day one is that fire on a boat is bad. EVERY PROFESSIONAL SAILOR is trained to fight fires, regardless of their job aboard the ship. We can talk about all manner of precautions, but when you are playing with fire, expect at some point to get burned, and possibly lose your boat. Is it worth the risk? Not for me. But to each his own.</p> Sparks can be controlled by a…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-04-06:2195841:Comment:1413052016-04-06T21:00:03.272ZJerryhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Jerry
Sparks can be controlled by a screen, using dry wood, and keeping the fire small. Charcoal doesn't really throw sparks at all. I use a small charcoal grill on my Catalina 25 with no problem. Keeping the fire away from gas and other explosives is a good idea. Also, keep a bucket or two of water handy.<br/>
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What about a trap door in the bottom of the barrel fire pit? When done with fire, just drop the coals in the water.
Sparks can be controlled by a screen, using dry wood, and keeping the fire small. Charcoal doesn't really throw sparks at all. I use a small charcoal grill on my Catalina 25 with no problem. Keeping the fire away from gas and other explosives is a good idea. Also, keep a bucket or two of water handy.<br/>
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What about a trap door in the bottom of the barrel fire pit? When done with fire, just drop the coals in the water. I think the prob generally is…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-04-06:2195841:Comment:1412552016-04-06T20:09:51.325ZBrett Parkerhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BrettParker
<p>I think the prob generally is sparks! Does charcoal spark less than wood?</p>
<p>I think the prob generally is sparks! Does charcoal spark less than wood?</p> Just get yourself Cobb grill…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-04-06:2195841:Comment:1413912016-04-06T15:07:16.750ZBjörnhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Bjorn
Just get yourself Cobb grill and you can take the open fireplace wherever you want in your boat :-)
Just get yourself Cobb grill and you can take the open fireplace wherever you want in your boat :-) In Mozambique the local dhows…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-04-05:2195841:Comment:1410842016-04-05T17:51:43.857ZEmil Gaigherhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/EmilGaigher
In Mozambique the local dhows all use open fire pits , I have met them 50 miles offshore having a good barbeque of fish!! They use a open box of wood with a good layer of beach sand in the bottom, fire consisting of charcoal ( bought locally) so no open flames to speak of and easy to extinguise with sand in box if wind pics up. Some danger in consept and personally I would only use on beach, but proven to be duable if sensible precuations taken..<br />
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In Mozambique the local dhows all use open fire pits , I have met them 50 miles offshore having a good barbeque of fish!! They use a open box of wood with a good layer of beach sand in the bottom, fire consisting of charcoal ( bought locally) so no open flames to speak of and easy to extinguise with sand in box if wind pics up. Some danger in consept and personally I would only use on beach, but proven to be duable if sensible precuations taken..<br />
Emil Modern requirements for gasol…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-04-04:2195841:Comment:1412472016-04-04T07:41:49.319ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
<p>Modern requirements for gasoline fuel force you to have them vented and the thought of what could happen if the open flame got to the fumes from that fuel, is terrifying. </p>
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<p>So we always were happy to make a fire on the beach and folks in the anchorage know that they can just bring some food to share, their favorite tipple, and musical instruments, and we would all sit back enjoying the firelight while we watched our boats in silhouette against the sunset sky. Then we'd row…</p>
<p>Modern requirements for gasoline fuel force you to have them vented and the thought of what could happen if the open flame got to the fumes from that fuel, is terrifying. </p>
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<p>So we always were happy to make a fire on the beach and folks in the anchorage know that they can just bring some food to share, their favorite tipple, and musical instruments, and we would all sit back enjoying the firelight while we watched our boats in silhouette against the sunset sky. Then we'd row back aboard and fall asleep on a safe boat knowing that the smoke we smell is just the smell of the campfire in our hair and not the boat on fire. </p>
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<p>Have you ever seen a boat on fire? I have seen that happen three times. They usually burn to the waterline but sometimes they blow up all to smithereenes. </p>
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<p>Our boat is now for sale, sadly, but we had wonderful memories and friendships living aboard her for over 50,000 safe sea miles. Safe is step one on the way to serenity.</p>
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<p>Ann and Nev</p> Yes have thought about having…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-23:2195841:Comment:1408682016-03-23T23:36:31.788ZBrett Parkerhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BrettParker
<p>Yes have thought about having something flush with deck. Nice!</p>
<p>Yes have thought about having something flush with deck. Nice!</p> Indeed. A small, portable one…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-23:2195841:Comment:1409082016-03-23T21:09:32.371ZJerryhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Jerry
Indeed. A small, portable one with a very good mesh cover to keep sparks from being a problem. We make them out of 55 gallon drums all the time. Just cut the bottom 1/3 off and poke a few air holes in it. You can make them really nice with fancy air hole design. On a boat you would want to put legs on it and mesh on the air holes...and maybe keep the fire below the rim.<br></br>
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The bottom 1/3 of a drum is 12 inches deep and 2 feet diameter. Would it be possible to sink it into the deck so…
Indeed. A small, portable one with a very good mesh cover to keep sparks from being a problem. We make them out of 55 gallon drums all the time. Just cut the bottom 1/3 off and poke a few air holes in it. You can make them really nice with fancy air hole design. On a boat you would want to put legs on it and mesh on the air holes...and maybe keep the fire below the rim.<br/>
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The bottom 1/3 of a drum is 12 inches deep and 2 feet diameter. Would it be possible to sink it into the deck so that the pit hangs under? Maybe flare out the middle 1/3 of the drum, cut a 2 foot circle in the deck, and slip it in. You can then have a hard cover for it when not in use. Out of sight and mind. If the pit burns or rusts through, the coals will fall into the water. You've got a point, a fire ov…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-02:2195841:Comment:1406172016-03-02T23:09:08.217ZRicardo Aráozhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RicardoAraoz
<p>You've got a point, a fire over the water on a starry night with good company is as good as it gets.</p>
<p>You've got a point, a fire over the water on a starry night with good company is as good as it gets.</p> thanks Ricardo
There'll be…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-02:2195841:Comment:1405242016-03-02T22:17:56.796ZBrett Parkerhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BrettParker
<p>thanks Ricardo</p>
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<p> There'll be no stopping to cook me chicken :) I do already have butane or LPG set up . Plan to have the occasional fire on the the beach too, but for the firebox, its more a social thing when I have a group sitting around talking boats , coming together for shared meals and planning the next day on a beautiful quiet night. A fire just adds a whole different dimension. Sure something suitable can be set up. Would like to see something set up on your T30 too…</p>
<p>thanks Ricardo</p>
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<p> There'll be no stopping to cook me chicken :) I do already have butane or LPG set up . Plan to have the occasional fire on the the beach too, but for the firebox, its more a social thing when I have a group sitting around talking boats , coming together for shared meals and planning the next day on a beautiful quiet night. A fire just adds a whole different dimension. Sure something suitable can be set up. Would like to see something set up on your T30 too :)</p>
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<p>I love cooking up fish head soup too but it totally stinks out the galley so would be good to cook this outside . Also keen to be able to cook pizza up on deck, maybe on the bottom of a dutch oven turned upside down. I often cruise in company and my ship tends to become the mother ship so good to have plenty of options. Will have to design all this so it can be easily cleared away after for the nude dancing :)</p>
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