using wood flour (saw dust) in fillets - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T10:20:59Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/using-wood-flour-saw-dust-in?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have been making fillets wi…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-08-18:2195841:Comment:478912011-08-18T15:29:58.087ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
I have been making fillets with wood flour and found the solution to making them smooth. First make the mix less dry. Second when the fillet is nearly hard put a drop of unthickened epoxy on the tip of a gloved finger and rub it on the fillet to make it smooth. Third, buy Nev a better sander and let him make it nice with just on easy pass of that machine. Presto!
I have been making fillets with wood flour and found the solution to making them smooth. First make the mix less dry. Second when the fillet is nearly hard put a drop of unthickened epoxy on the tip of a gloved finger and rub it on the fillet to make it smooth. Third, buy Nev a better sander and let him make it nice with just on easy pass of that machine. Presto! Hi Sue,
Actually alcohol…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-28:2195841:Comment:443972011-07-28T12:04:03.985ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p> Actually alcohol never did eat through any of my gloves. I used it to wipe up as I made fillets while building Peace IV and the wiping up was nearly constant. I was also thinking that a brush lightly damp with epoxy might be drawn along a fillet to smoothe it. I got lots of experiments ahead. Nev will have to build another dinghy! </p>
<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p> Actually alcohol never did eat through any of my gloves. I used it to wipe up as I made fillets while building Peace IV and the wiping up was nearly constant. I was also thinking that a brush lightly damp with epoxy might be drawn along a fillet to smoothe it. I got lots of experiments ahead. Nev will have to build another dinghy! </p> Yes vinegar is an epoxy solv…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-28:2195841:Comment:443942011-07-28T09:01:02.362ZLee Dilkeshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/LeeDilkes
Yes vinegar is an epoxy solvent much cheaper than other stuff, great for cleaning brushes, hands and tools as well as non toxic.
Yes vinegar is an epoxy solvent much cheaper than other stuff, great for cleaning brushes, hands and tools as well as non toxic. Hi Lee,
Have you used vineg…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-28:2195841:Comment:442142011-07-28T00:20:59.742ZJeff Kittlehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JeffKittle
<p>Hi Lee,</p>
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<p>Have you used vinegar for this purpose?</p>
<p>If it works it would be great because after a while the alcohol will eat through the gloves. So using vinegar definitely would be cheaper.</p>
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<p>Sue</p>
<p>Hi Lee,</p>
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<p>Have you used vinegar for this purpose?</p>
<p>If it works it would be great because after a while the alcohol will eat through the gloves. So using vinegar definitely would be cheaper.</p>
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<p>Sue</p> Perhaps try using vinegar ins…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-27:2195841:Comment:443062011-07-27T13:47:58.039ZLee Dilkeshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/LeeDilkes
<p>Perhaps try using vinegar instead of alcohol on a cotton rag or sponge when its tacked off. Heaps cheaper.</p>
<p>Or a run a length of cheap packing tape over the fillet the go over it with your fillet stick then once its cured will be a lot easier to sand.</p>
<p>Perhaps try using vinegar instead of alcohol on a cotton rag or sponge when its tacked off. Heaps cheaper.</p>
<p>Or a run a length of cheap packing tape over the fillet the go over it with your fillet stick then once its cured will be a lot easier to sand.</p> use a sieve and use sawdust f…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-22:2195841:Comment:434142011-07-22T02:20:45.129ZRogerio Martinhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RogerioMartin
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<p><span id="result_box" lang="en" xml:lang="en"><span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas" class="hps">cheap, strong and</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas" class="hps">easy</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas" class="hps">to sand</span></span></p> I just put on a pair of glove…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-22:2195841:Comment:435052011-07-22T00:05:57.834ZJeff Kittlehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JeffKittle
<p>I just put on a pair of gloves, poured a little bit of alcohol in a cup and rubbed it on with my finger. That way they got really smooth. This works even if they get stiff - just rub harder... It did not change the color of the fillets at all. </p>
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<p>I left my dinghy wood colored on the inside - lots of varnish which quickly disappeared as Jeff treated her like the work horse she was supposed to be. Drat. Wanted a work of art that was not to be. </p>
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<p>Right now she's…</p>
<p>I just put on a pair of gloves, poured a little bit of alcohol in a cup and rubbed it on with my finger. That way they got really smooth. This works even if they get stiff - just rub harder... It did not change the color of the fillets at all. </p>
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<p>I left my dinghy wood colored on the inside - lots of varnish which quickly disappeared as Jeff treated her like the work horse she was supposed to be. Drat. Wanted a work of art that was not to be. </p>
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<p>Right now she's sitting in the garage of our rental house in Florida awaiting refinishing. And all 5 of us are sitting in a car driving north to Michigan for son #3's wedding. Time just seems to be whizzing by faster than I would like!</p> So did you brush on the denat…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-21:2195841:Comment:434072011-07-21T23:56:10.873ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
So did you brush on the denatured alcohol? That sounds super easy and the alcohol is not expensive either. I guess it would change the color of the fillet, but that is not a problem if we paint and we will surely paint this boat which will be used by kids and likely not treated the way you would want a varnished boat to be treated. Hopefully it will just be sailed and loved so we can get the kids "hooked on sailing" and truly ruin their lives. Can't have them all scholastic and work…
So did you brush on the denatured alcohol? That sounds super easy and the alcohol is not expensive either. I guess it would change the color of the fillet, but that is not a problem if we paint and we will surely paint this boat which will be used by kids and likely not treated the way you would want a varnished boat to be treated. Hopefully it will just be sailed and loved so we can get the kids "hooked on sailing" and truly ruin their lives. Can't have them all scholastic and work oriented now, can we! Hi Ann,
On the little dingh…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-21:2195841:Comment:435932011-07-21T23:46:33.703ZJeff Kittlehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JeffKittle
<p>Hi Ann,</p>
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<p>On the little dinghy I made last summer I made fillets out of wood flour and then when it got partially cured I followed Boatsmiths recommendation of smoothing them with denatured alcohol. It worked quickly and gave amazingly smooth fillets that required no or minimal sanding. </p>
<p>Perfect considering Nevs allergies.</p>
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<p>Sue</p>
<p>Hi Ann,</p>
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<p>On the little dinghy I made last summer I made fillets out of wood flour and then when it got partially cured I followed Boatsmiths recommendation of smoothing them with denatured alcohol. It worked quickly and gave amazingly smooth fillets that required no or minimal sanding. </p>
<p>Perfect considering Nevs allergies.</p>
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<p>Sue</p> Nev did build boats using Res…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-21:2195841:Comment:435032011-07-21T16:35:26.452ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
Nev did build boats using Resorcinol and lots of solid wood - about seven, so I have heard. But the epoxy is forgiving of oopsie moments down in the boat building basement, and we can feel secure about the bond using epoxy too. Wharrams talk about the fillet actually "welding" the wood and it seems to do exactly that if one follows the correct methods. The ply/epoxy/fibreglass method with fillets is so darn easy, it is hard to beat. I will try the mixes that have been suggested and see…
Nev did build boats using Resorcinol and lots of solid wood - about seven, so I have heard. But the epoxy is forgiving of oopsie moments down in the boat building basement, and we can feel secure about the bond using epoxy too. Wharrams talk about the fillet actually "welding" the wood and it seems to do exactly that if one follows the correct methods. The ply/epoxy/fibreglass method with fillets is so darn easy, it is hard to beat. I will try the mixes that have been suggested and see how it goes. We are nearly finished with this dinghy, but there are a few more fillets to go. And lots more grand children to build dinghys for in the years ahead.