Tiki mod? - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T21:17:32Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-mod?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A141122&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYES!! I have the site open o…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-07-15:2195841:Comment:1538142017-07-15T13:59:06.385ZAndy Nemierhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AndyNemier
<p>YES!! I have the site open on my macbook right now!</p>
<p>I will start right at the first blog post - and run thru to the bitter end. I've seen some random 'DOG' videos in the past on You-Tube. But that was before the bug bit me. Oh dear.</p>
<p>For what it's worth, I really appreciate you guys participating on this website, I'm learning all the time and often find myself chuckling. Cheers.</p>
<p>YES!! I have the site open on my macbook right now!</p>
<p>I will start right at the first blog post - and run thru to the bitter end. I've seen some random 'DOG' videos in the past on You-Tube. But that was before the bug bit me. Oh dear.</p>
<p>For what it's worth, I really appreciate you guys participating on this website, I'm learning all the time and often find myself chuckling. Cheers.</p> Have you tried acatnameddog.…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-07-15:2195841:Comment:1537072017-07-15T13:21:32.062ZBudget Boaterhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BudgetBoater
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<p>Have you tried <a href="http://acatnameddog.com" target="_blank">acatnameddog.com</a></p>
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<p><cite>Andy Nemier said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-mod?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A153813&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment153813"><div><p>Hi Marty,</p>
<p>I'm fascinated with this Wharram build project (the Tiki 38 - in my mind).</p>
<p>Do you have a website for your boat / boat…</p>
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<p>Have you tried <a href="http://acatnameddog.com" target="_blank">acatnameddog.com</a></p>
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<p><cite>Andy Nemier said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-mod?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A153813&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment153813"><div><p>Hi Marty,</p>
<p>I'm fascinated with this Wharram build project (the Tiki 38 - in my mind).</p>
<p>Do you have a website for your boat / boat build?</p>
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I'm fascinated with…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-07-15:2195841:Comment:1538132017-07-15T11:40:45.323ZAndy Nemierhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AndyNemier
<p>Hi Marty,</p>
<p>I'm fascinated with this Wharram build project (the Tiki 38 - in my mind).</p>
<p>Do you have a website for your boat / boat build?</p>
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<p>Hi Marty,</p>
<p>I'm fascinated with this Wharram build project (the Tiki 38 - in my mind).</p>
<p>Do you have a website for your boat / boat build?</p>
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Hi There…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-07-15:2195841:Comment:1538092017-07-15T08:38:47.860ZAndy Nemierhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AndyNemier
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Brett Parker said:</cite></p>
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<p>Just wondering the reason for wanting to remove the pod?</p>
<p>I have a t 38 and find the pod to be fantastic. Gets you out of the wind, keeps you dry, and its a great sheltered space to talk.</p>
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<p>My pod has clears all round and this is a real asset. Interested to hear your…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Brett Parker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-mod#2195841Comment140865"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi There</p>
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<p>Just wondering the reason for wanting to remove the pod?</p>
<p>I have a t 38 and find the pod to be fantastic. Gets you out of the wind, keeps you dry, and its a great sheltered space to talk.</p>
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<p>My pod has clears all round and this is a real asset. Interested to hear your reasons for change .</p>
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<p>regards Brett</p>
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<p>Hi Brett,</p>
<p>I'm new here (July, 2017) I have Study Plans for the Tiki 38, can't get enough of it.</p>
<p>I plan to build in the future, but for now I'm enjoying burning some time - contemplating, preparing, planning for the eventual build. Question; Do you have a website for your boat / build?</p>
<p>Thanks. : )</p>
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</blockquote> Not sure what your considerin…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-30:2195841:Comment:1410442016-03-30T13:32:48.623ZNigel Signalhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/NigelSignal
Not sure what your considering storing on the cabin tops but having too much weight that high could adversely affect the balance of the boat. Marty's suggestion of raising the roof and floors and using the storage created low down in the hulls would perhaps be an option worth exploring because keeps all the weight down low in the hull. Good luck
Not sure what your considering storing on the cabin tops but having too much weight that high could adversely affect the balance of the boat. Marty's suggestion of raising the roof and floors and using the storage created low down in the hulls would perhaps be an option worth exploring because keeps all the weight down low in the hull. Good luck If you get the lashings tight…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-30:2195841:Comment:1411222016-03-30T02:03:08.068ZMarty Petershttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/NokTalay
If you get the lashings tight enough the flex is so minimal. I can place my fingers on the beams and hull while sailing in rough 2-3 m seas while it's blowing 25-30kts and the movement between the beam and hull is less than 1-2 mm. BB describes it well, the sides wouldn't be an issue but to have a solid front or back is the engineering challenge, that's why I would have clears at the front and an open back. The roof would hinge at the join between the top of the sides and the roof joint.<br />
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If you get the lashings tight enough the flex is so minimal. I can place my fingers on the beams and hull while sailing in rough 2-3 m seas while it's blowing 25-30kts and the movement between the beam and hull is less than 1-2 mm. BB describes it well, the sides wouldn't be an issue but to have a solid front or back is the engineering challenge, that's why I would have clears at the front and an open back. The roof would hinge at the join between the top of the sides and the roof joint.<br />
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Ref cabin top storage and kid safety. There is acres of space for rope / fender storage etc. Just in the forward starboard cabin I have two mountain bikes, a bike kid seat, 2 22kg gas bottles, a huge parachute anchor, 200m of rode, 12 large fenders and 4 boxes of stuff that I can't even remember whats inside. My workshop in the port fwd cabin is full of tools, spare lines, blocks , epoxy glass etc. under each bed is around 2 sq meters of storage. To keep my kids (15months and 7 years) on deck I put a 60cm high pushpit and pullpit on the bow and at beam 5 with netting and stanchions down each side. I recently added 1 m sunbrella bags on the push pits for storing a pram, snorkelling gear, fishing gear and mooring lines and 2 emergency fenders...<br />
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I think your best way forward is to try to visit and see in person a tiki 46 or 38 to really get a reference on how big these boats are. Keep in mind that a tiki 46 is about 3 times bigger than a tiki 30 and about twice as big as a 38. The numbers don't do the actual size difference justice. A 46 is a much much bigger boat than a 38. I had 30 before the 46 and the size difference is astounding..<br />
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Actually, why don't you get down to see ann and nevs tiki 46. At the new price of 110,000 usd it's a bargain as I can guarantee you you couldn't build one for anywhere near that price, and that's not taking into account the extras like solar, autopilot, halyards, mattresses etc etc etc etc.You could buy their boat, take off the pod, spend 50k building a new pod /roof/ bridge deck and get exactly what you want and you'll save yourself 3-10 years building time and a whole bunch of money. If I was thinking of a 46 I would jump all over peace IV because I can tell you it's impossible to build for anywhere near what they are asking. Just this season I spent another 10k on bits and pieces and I still have loads to do and spend before the boat is "finished"! When renovating Spiral Tribe I spent a fortune on consumables.<br />
I would guess-timate I spent more than 10k alone on Gloves, sandpaper, thinners, acetone, mixing pots, mixing sticks( tongue depressors) respirator filters, tyvec suits, cutting disks etc etc etc I bought a makita orbi sander that was over 500usd (best tool<br />
I have ever bought!) and I went through 8, yes 8 cheap (80usd each) black and decker ( crap and crapper) sanders, 2 mains power drills and 3 cheap battery drills, and 2 makita grinders and a makita jigsaw.<br />
It was always a dream to build a boat but at times , especially once I realised the enormity of the task at hand, it felt more like a nightmare. Looking back I learned loads especially in the what not to do department. And I actually enjoyed building / modifying but please keep in mind it is hard damn work. I personally know two other 46 builders in South Africa where I did my renovation and they took 10 years and 12 years respectively to build their 46's...<br />
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I'm rambling again... Lol...<br />
Take care and keep dreaming... Cos dreams do come true!<br />
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Marty The hulls do not flex. The hu…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-29:2195841:Comment:1411152016-03-29T18:46:21.534ZBudget Boaterhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BudgetBoater
<p>The hulls do not flex. The hulls can "rock" in relationship to the crossbeams.</p>
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<p>There are solutions: Monocoque - glass and bolt the beams into the hulls to eliminate the potential for rocking. If you build bridge deck sides with windows in them, you would gap the windows in the space and fill with a flexible sealant. Also, the closer your bridge deck sides align with the centerline of the hulls, the less the "rocking" will have any effect on your sides.</p>
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<p>The hulls do not flex. The hulls can "rock" in relationship to the crossbeams.</p>
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<p>There are solutions: Monocoque - glass and bolt the beams into the hulls to eliminate the potential for rocking. If you build bridge deck sides with windows in them, you would gap the windows in the space and fill with a flexible sealant. Also, the closer your bridge deck sides align with the centerline of the hulls, the less the "rocking" will have any effect on your sides.</p>
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<p>The bigger issue with a solid bridge deck top/sides on a non-monocoque catamaran is the effect of the front/aft of the bridge deck walls as they interacts with the sides walls of the bridge deck when/if the hulls rock in a seaway.</p> How would one install glass s…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-29:2195841:Comment:1411142016-03-29T18:07:23.930ZJerryhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Jerry
<p>How would one install glass sides on a hulls that flex? Plastic windows, but they will be scratched very quickly. Perhaps a flexible gap between the windows and hulls? But, that wouldn't account for any twist...</p>
<p>How would one install glass sides on a hulls that flex? Plastic windows, but they will be scratched very quickly. Perhaps a flexible gap between the windows and hulls? But, that wouldn't account for any twist...</p> Yes! Thanks for the Gunboat…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-03-29:2195841:Comment:1412032016-03-29T17:48:52.399ZJerryhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Jerry
<p>Yes! Thanks for the Gunboat 55 link. That is nearly what I had in mind. Especially the kitchen up. See how the stove is on top of the cabin? I like the idea of keeping all of the propane between hulls. </p>
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<p>I want to raise the cabins so that the toddler won't jump off the sides quite so easy and maybe provide a little more weather protection. Building and blending storage on top would be easier than cutting off the roof and raising it. Storage for little things like spare…</p>
<p>Yes! Thanks for the Gunboat 55 link. That is nearly what I had in mind. Especially the kitchen up. See how the stove is on top of the cabin? I like the idea of keeping all of the propane between hulls. </p>
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<p>I want to raise the cabins so that the toddler won't jump off the sides quite so easy and maybe provide a little more weather protection. Building and blending storage on top would be easier than cutting off the roof and raising it. Storage for little things like spare rope, canned food, books, snorkels, screwdriver, that lost sock, etc...</p> Ou comme cela?
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<p>Ou comme cela?</p>
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<p>Ou comme cela?</p>
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