Tiki 46 in the rain? - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T09:59:43Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-46-in-the-rain?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A79360&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJacques - hope this message f…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-05-12:2195841:Comment:1302352015-05-12T09:19:33.532ZJose Alberto Garibaldihttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JoseAlbertoGaribaldi
<p>Jacques - hope this message finds you well. Have seen you are thinking of sharing costs - maintenance of Pilgrim, a common problem to us all. I had been considering taking my own boat, Leveller, a tiki 31, to the Mediterranean from the channel, and take my family out for a few days there- a long held dream. Marseille seems close to many places. However, if I did will end up with my boat in another place, not knowing how to bring it back, and it is not an easy nor cheap enterprise for me.…</p>
<p>Jacques - hope this message finds you well. Have seen you are thinking of sharing costs - maintenance of Pilgrim, a common problem to us all. I had been considering taking my own boat, Leveller, a tiki 31, to the Mediterranean from the channel, and take my family out for a few days there- a long held dream. Marseille seems close to many places. However, if I did will end up with my boat in another place, not knowing how to bring it back, and it is not an easy nor cheap enterprise for me. Considering that your boat is already there, maybe I could help out somehow with you, your boat and its maintenance, and sail there every once in a while. I would offer to reciprocate, but not sure it would be a good idea for you, considering how the weather is in the channel. In any case, would you be interested in discussing something? I can understand your predicament, as I am in a similar one, but maybe joining up forces could help. I send you friend´s request - let me know if sensible. Best regards and best wishes,</p>
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<p>Jose A.</p> Most people with Wharrams an…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-01-09:2195841:Comment:1246882015-01-09T20:07:35.914ZHyde Lotterhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/HydeLotter
<p> Most people with Wharrams and other cats with similar layouts that do not allow access from one hull to the other, long for the ability to go between the hulls or just from the centre pod, to a hull where the heads usually are. I have to admit, sometimes when I havent had it, I have wished I did.</p>
<p>You are going to have to make the choice to sail one or the other type of boat. I have owned both. It, is similar to the choice of either riding a motorcycle or driving a car. The ride on…</p>
<p> Most people with Wharrams and other cats with similar layouts that do not allow access from one hull to the other, long for the ability to go between the hulls or just from the centre pod, to a hull where the heads usually are. I have to admit, sometimes when I havent had it, I have wished I did.</p>
<p>You are going to have to make the choice to sail one or the other type of boat. I have owned both. It, is similar to the choice of either riding a motorcycle or driving a car. The ride on a bike is thrilling and pure. Wind in your hair. Open view of the world. No point then in getting the bike fitted with a huge windscreen and enclosure so you have the comforts of a car. There are good cars available for that already.</p>
<p>The form drag from these types of "tents" people fit to boats, I think is higher than a well designed central cabin enclosed traditional cat. </p>
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<p>When you build this tent/bimini over the cockpit area, you lose that view of the sky! And in addition to that because they are always after market and built as an afterthought, they dont look right, they are flimsy, in a real wind. They flap and drip. Dont protect from mosquitoes. And due to their high windage fly in the face of the whole wharram design. The Wharram design is all about simple, high bridgedeck clearance, low windage, easily driven boats. These boats sail!, with much smaller rigs than other cats. The moment you add this type of bimini, you certainly are no longer in keeping with the philosophy. Performance suffers. Trying to create a hybrid is like fitting the enclosure to the bike. So if you are going to sail a wharram, its a conscious choice to sail the tropics under the moonlight/open skies and the clean joy that you feel when your vessel cuts through the sea like a hot knife through butter. No effort and hardly a wake left behind you. Thats real joy. The times you have to get a bit of rain on you is just part of living with Nature. If you prefer camping to hotels. Prefer Bikes to cars. And you really love sailing. Sail a wharram, just the way they are designed. They are a sweet ride!</p> Thanks Ann! We just decide to…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-12-05:2195841:Comment:909662012-12-05T15:09:56.010ZAgustina Comedihttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AgustinaComedi
<p>Thanks Ann! We just decide to put a special fabric that has little holes so that there is no rush when it blows and our baby can play there free and with no worries because of the afternoon sun. </p>
<p>Thanks a lot!!</p>
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<p>Thanks Ann! We just decide to put a special fabric that has little holes so that there is no rush when it blows and our baby can play there free and with no worries because of the afternoon sun. </p>
<p>Thanks a lot!!</p>
<p>A</p> On the Tiki 46 you can make a…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-12-05:2195841:Comment:907822012-12-05T04:41:51.392ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
<p>On the Tiki 46 you can make an opening in the plans designed watertight bulkhead to walk through from the galley in the starboard hull aft into the double cabin there. This is a slightly low beam so you need to duck but it is the same on the port hull and we have no problem with it. It is a slight ducking that is required. We did bump our heads a couple of times at first, but have installed a rubber duckie that dangles from that bulkhead to remind us to duck. "Just read the sign! The…</p>
<p>On the Tiki 46 you can make an opening in the plans designed watertight bulkhead to walk through from the galley in the starboard hull aft into the double cabin there. This is a slightly low beam so you need to duck but it is the same on the port hull and we have no problem with it. It is a slight ducking that is required. We did bump our heads a couple of times at first, but have installed a rubber duckie that dangles from that bulkhead to remind us to duck. "Just read the sign! The duck says duck!" Wharrams have approved making the starboard bulkhead the same as the port bulkhead and I believe it is station 7 in the plans. </p>
<p>The Tiki 46 is usually dry on deck (unless it is raining of course). But when we sail fast, there is a little splashing on the foredeck that starts at 9 knots. We rarely take water over the side unless it is really rough out or we are going super fast on a reach with choppy waves, but sometimes we do get some splashing that comes through the slats between the hulls and the pod. Not much water comes up, but it seems to get Nev just as he exits the galley with a cuppa tea, for some reason and I must confess it always makes me laugh. If it bothered us more, we would do something about it. I have several suggestions for a cure and I know they would work, but it has not bothered us enough to shake off our laziness and get into action yet since it is relatively uncommon and usually a bit funny. We do normally sail south with the seasons. Perhaps if we sailed in cold waters more, we would be more annoyed and take action. </p>
<p> Wharrams do say you can move the galley hatch aft a bit and this might help with the idea of making the boat rain proof. We welcome the rain as a way to wash the boat and also ourselves. Again, we normally sail where it is warm. Our friend George, has a Tiki 38 with one of those plastic clear enclosures like an oxygen tent for the pod/cockpit which is one unit on his boat and it is warm and dry on cold and splashy days so I can say that was nice on a recent winter sail. It would not take a lot to make that an enclosed boat and fabric would be enough. Use your imagination.</p>
<p> On the other hand, why not just sail south and enjoy the splashes, the rain, and refreshing wind? That is really the best way in my opinion. Have fun, Ann</p> at our home when it rains we…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-12-04:2195841:Comment:910122012-12-04T18:13:46.526ZDavid Hillhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/DavidHill
<p>at our home when it rains we catch it in barrels, for the garden, the critters, the tree's and showers; we can also filter and drink it.. as a kid, one of my favorite things was to swim, swimming in the rain was a bonus. do we go to the water to stay dry? i have to agree with Neville, except after removing your clothes, go swimming; there is a certain peace to swimming in the rain. the rain, like the wind, has its own song.</p>
<p> yes, you may get cold, but how much fun it is gettin…</p>
<p>at our home when it rains we catch it in barrels, for the garden, the critters, the tree's and showers; we can also filter and drink it.. as a kid, one of my favorite things was to swim, swimming in the rain was a bonus. do we go to the water to stay dry? i have to agree with Neville, except after removing your clothes, go swimming; there is a certain peace to swimming in the rain. the rain, like the wind, has its own song.</p>
<p> yes, you may get cold, but how much fun it is gettin warm!</p> Thanks Hans! There are some s…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-10-30:2195841:Comment:873012012-10-30T02:20:16.506ZAgustina Comedihttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AgustinaComedi
<p>Thanks Hans! There are some structural things that we are not going to be able to reproduce but the light "cloth" for the big cockpit is perfect. What material is it?</p>
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<p>Thanks Hans! There are some structural things that we are not going to be able to reproduce but the light "cloth" for the big cockpit is perfect. What material is it?</p>
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<p>as you can see me can close the backside and front of the black dodger. rain is not a problem for us at all. we can walk from one hull to the other with dry feet. even when sailing, we have full acess and protection.</p>
<p>cheers hans</p>
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<p></p> tHAK YOU dAVID! We are lookin…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-10-29:2195841:Comment:872952012-10-29T20:59:46.641ZAgustina Comedihttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AgustinaComedi
<p>tHAK YOU dAVID! We are looking for some non structural solution. Besides our rig is very different. Anyway that must be confortable! ;)</p>
<p>Some bimini that we can take out to sail but that we can leave while at ancorage.</p>
<p>tHAK YOU dAVID! We are looking for some non structural solution. Besides our rig is very different. Anyway that must be confortable! ;)</p>
<p>Some bimini that we can take out to sail but that we can leave while at ancorage.</p> hi have just read your commen…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-10-29:2195841:Comment:869772012-10-29T20:37:18.097Zdavid duval-hallhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/davidduvalhall
<p>hi have just read your comments ref living aboard, have a look at our photos, its totally rain proof, was a pahi 42, she is totally still a good sea boat, sails well with junk rig and have the room of a £250000 cat, all for under £40000 regards david and julie</p>
<p>hi have just read your comments ref living aboard, have a look at our photos, its totally rain proof, was a pahi 42, she is totally still a good sea boat, sails well with junk rig and have the room of a £250000 cat, all for under £40000 regards david and julie</p> By central cockpit i mean the…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-10-29:2195841:Comment:870872012-10-29T19:26:05.523ZAgustina Comedihttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AgustinaComedi
<p>By central cockpit i mean the platform in the middle (were the ladder is), not the real cockpit were the steering weel is.</p>
<p>By central cockpit i mean the platform in the middle (were the ladder is), not the real cockpit were the steering weel is.</p>