The inspiration I got from Wharrams lead to this..... - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T11:26:21Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/the-inspiration-i-got-from-wharrams-lead-to-this?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=no I looked at your Photos, ni…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-02-15:2195841:Comment:1494442017-02-15T20:32:02.489Zrael dobkinshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/raeldobkins
<p> I looked at your Photos, nice trip with your Tiki 21.</p>
<p>looking at the root you sailed, I too enjoyed the memories of sailing to Tsarevo. from Korfu Greece, we took the exact same root.... How I miss those days......</p>
<p> Then at the end of summer 2010, after sailing from the Atlantic, France to Greece, in Athens waiting for a train, my bag got stolen, camera inside................ Memory card? inside camera....... Back up? nothing!!! zero. Shaize.....</p>
<p> Bottom line, your…</p>
<p> I looked at your Photos, nice trip with your Tiki 21.</p>
<p>looking at the root you sailed, I too enjoyed the memories of sailing to Tsarevo. from Korfu Greece, we took the exact same root.... How I miss those days......</p>
<p> Then at the end of summer 2010, after sailing from the Atlantic, France to Greece, in Athens waiting for a train, my bag got stolen, camera inside................ Memory card? inside camera....... Back up? nothing!!! zero. Shaize.....</p>
<p> Bottom line, your photo album, sent me back to a trip that only other people can remind me of.....</p>
<p>Your album isn't the first, to do this to me.... I think I'm beginning to enjoy it....... </p>
<p> Thanks for the comment, I enjoyed your album. Keep Sailing.......</p>
<p>All d best.</p> Wow! Quite a bit of thinking…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-02-13:2195841:Comment:1497452017-02-13T20:28:19.797ZPius Bielowskihttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/PiusBielowski
<p>Wow! Quite a bit of thinking and smart solutions went into this boat. I will have to watch that video at least five times more to get all the details. </p>
<p>Nice to be reminded of our time in Tsarevo as well.</p>
<p>Keep it up!</p>
<p>Wow! Quite a bit of thinking and smart solutions went into this boat. I will have to watch that video at least five times more to get all the details. </p>
<p>Nice to be reminded of our time in Tsarevo as well.</p>
<p>Keep it up!</p> Jeremy Walker said:
Keep on…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-02-06:2195841:Comment:1494062017-02-06T06:42:37.709Zrael dobkinshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/raeldobkins
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jeremy Walker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/the-inspiration-i-got-from-wharrams-lead-to-this?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A149602&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment149602"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Keep on at it Rael…… there is more to learn on this shunter canoe line of development, and which might eventually lead you closer to a plywood V or classic Wharram section double canoe, in the same way that it…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jeremy Walker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/the-inspiration-i-got-from-wharrams-lead-to-this?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A149602&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2195841Comment149602"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Keep on at it Rael…… there is more to learn on this shunter canoe line of development, and which might eventually lead you closer to a plywood V or classic Wharram section double canoe, in the same way that it has done for me.</p>
<p>Yep, it has taken me more than 40 years to synthesize the traditional Polynesian Pahi with Wharram like V section plywood hull.</p>
<p>Starting out on the quest for Pacific sailing canoe knowledge, I read what Eric De Bisschop wrote about Polynesian double canoes,at the same time as reading ‘two girls and two catamarans’.</p>
<p>In summary there is the catamaran configuration, and then there is the shunter double canoe, as suggested by de Bisschop.</p>
<p>While Wharram has gone with the catamaran option , the shunter canoe or proa, has been left for others to work out.</p>
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<p>James Wharam explained(in his fist book) how he progressed from the box section hull (Tangaroa) to his V section hull.</p>
<p>This change in basic hull form is mentioned as an echo of the Polynesian change from a Tahitian dugout Va’a to the built up V section Pahi. Except that the original Polynesian Pahi hull is a more complex cordate section, rather than a simple V shape.</p>
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<p>I could post pics of the complex Pahi that I am working on,and maybe also show the plywood V section double canoe that is based on the Tuamotus model Pahi held in the Bernice P Bishop museum in Hawaii. But this message is long enough already is, so I should rather follow up here later </p>
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<p>Thanks Jeremy, I am experimenting with all hull shapes, "Crystal Clear" has a V bottom with a lot of rocker, her hulls are perfect for choppy seas. "Why Not?" with no rocker on a flat bottom is fast, now I am turning him into a micro cruiser for short trips, I wonder if he will be o.k. in moderate waves since he's narrow and once loaded his bottom will be fully submerged, That should eliminate pounding.... so "why not?"........</p>
<p> If I'm not happy, I can always add rocker and dead rise later on, creating a V bottom and adding volume.</p>
<p>Yes, I would like to see any Photos on the subject.</p>
<p>All d best.</p>
<p>Rael. </p>
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</blockquote> Keep on at it Rael…… there is…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-02-06:2195841:Comment:1496022017-02-06T00:31:06.667ZJeremy Walkerhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JeremyWalker
<p>Keep on at it Rael…… there is more to learn on this shunter canoe line of development, and which might eventually lead you closer to a plywood V or classic Wharram section double canoe, in the same way that it has done for me.</p>
<p>Yep, it has taken me more than 40 years to synthesize the traditional Polynesian Pahi with Wharram like V section plywood hull.</p>
<p>Starting out on the quest for Pacific sailing canoe knowledge, I read what Eric De Bisschop wrote about Polynesian double…</p>
<p>Keep on at it Rael…… there is more to learn on this shunter canoe line of development, and which might eventually lead you closer to a plywood V or classic Wharram section double canoe, in the same way that it has done for me.</p>
<p>Yep, it has taken me more than 40 years to synthesize the traditional Polynesian Pahi with Wharram like V section plywood hull.</p>
<p>Starting out on the quest for Pacific sailing canoe knowledge, I read what Eric De Bisschop wrote about Polynesian double canoes,at the same time as reading ‘two girls and two catamarans’.</p>
<p>In summary there is the catamaran configuration, and then there is the shunter double canoe, as suggested by de Bisschop.</p>
<p>While Wharram has gone with the catamaran option , the shunter canoe or proa, has been left for others to work out.</p>
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<p>James Wharam explained(in his fist book) how he progressed from the box section hull (Tangaroa) to his V section hull.</p>
<p>This change in basic hull form is mentioned as an echo of the Polynesian change from a Tahitian dugout Va’a to the built up V section Pahi. Except that the original Polynesian Pahi hull is a more complex cordate section, rather than a simple V shape.</p>
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<p>I could post pics of the complex Pahi that I am working on,and maybe also show the plywood V section double canoe that is based on the Tuamotus model Pahi held in the Bernice P Bishop museum in Hawaii. But this message is long enough already is, so I should rather follow up here later </p> paul anderson said:
Good wo…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-01-24:2195841:Comment:1486492017-01-24T18:11:55.611Zrael dobkinshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/raeldobkins
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>paul anderson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/the-inspiration-i-got-from-wharrams-lead-to-this#2195841Comment148510"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Good work mate.</p>
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<p>Thanks bro, seen so many gallons go under the bridge....</p>
<p>Now, just hope in the next stages I'll be counting liters....</p>
<p>all d best. </p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>paul anderson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/the-inspiration-i-got-from-wharrams-lead-to-this#2195841Comment148510"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Good work mate.</p>
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<p>Thanks bro, seen so many gallons go under the bridge....</p>
<p>Now, just hope in the next stages I'll be counting liters....</p>
<p>all d best. </p>
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</blockquote> Good work mate.
tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-01-22:2195841:Comment:1485102017-01-22T19:49:16.460Zpaul andersonhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/paulanderson
<p>Good work mate.</p>
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<p>Good work mate.</p>
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