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Hey, folks. I'm down here with BudgetBoater building my Tiki 38. He said that only 2 people contributed money toward operating this site last year. He pays a few hundred dollars a year to run this valuable resource out of his own pocket. You know that this site is not censored except for harmful spam. He only wants a free exchange of valuable information,  Even the official "W" site has little information that is discussed freely as on this site. We are 1200 strong and need to vote with our money. If everyone contributed $1, he could run this site for over 2 years! Of course, there are only 10% of our members that are truly active. So, If you have advertised a boat for sale, solved a building problem, connected with old friends, found a source for materials, or just had some interesting reading, you should make a small donation to keep this site healthy. I'll start it off and donate $10 today. Don't go crazy and contribute a lot; he doesn't need much. Make this a truly community site. Many people contributing a small amount ($5.00) is much better than one person contributing a lot.

Thanx

Chuck!

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Good point well made my friend. I'm guilty as charged and I just visited PayPal to put things right. There's so much info available for free on this here interweb it's easy to take valuable resources like this for granted.

Well done Mr BudgetBoater, your efforts are very much appreciated by this lonesome cold and tired builder. I trust everyone else will think on and do the right thing.

Well said Neil & Chuck, a good reminder!  I've just added my small contribution.  It only takes a minute and you don't even need a PayPal account; I used my debit card.

Thanks from me as well BudgetBoater, this is my favourite site on the interweb!

Me too - when I joined there were about 250 members we all knew where the site had come from and why..... but I suppose I never really knew how the site was financed. Will try to remember again next year !

Thanks Chuck Valley for pricking our conscious! We needed that to motivate us to add our donation.

I have been concerned with the fact that there have been a lot of crossbeam failures over the years, mainly with the classic designs.  The problem seemed to not with the original design, but with the incompetence of in- experienced  builders who constructed unsafe beams because of their ignorance of basic beam structures.

One such boat, an ORO, was built by a carpenter who should have known better. He laminated the beams up from 3M lengths butted together. Worked alright until he got into the choppy seas around the Bahamas and the beams started un- ravelling, finally ending in the hulls coming apart. The boat was only saved by the rigging holding the two hulls  from wandering away from each other, and the boat was salvaged.  

Another builder, of a Tehini, wanted to put a modern Bermuda rig on his boat, which of course required the mast to be supported by the centre of the main beam. He took the advice of a civil engineer and used steel I beams,(RSJs), for the crossarms. The beams were strong and light, and being of I section had a degree of flexability. They were bolted by the flanges to reinforced areas of the gunnels, and were completely success ful, holding the boat together when they grounded on a sandbar on a falling tide on the East Coast seaway. They completed a trip around the Bahamas and returned to Toronto in time for the first world multihull symposium where Wharram actually sailed on the boat and approved of the system.

Patrick I think perhaps you intended to post this under "Composite Beams" so I took the liberty of copying it there as I wanted to reply to this very important topic.

And now back to fundraising folks - let's keep this valuable forum going with our small [ or large ] donations - thank you Chuck for the reminder !!

Great Site! The best and only for Wharrambuilders. Just donated via Paypal - very easy. We all should do this every year.

Hear hear ..... great site. Contributing process is quick and trouble free. PS: Thanks Robert Hughes for the tip re debit card as it makes contributing easy despite not having a cheque account or a pay pal thingy.

Yes, really a very important site, not only for Wharram-builders, also for all other DIY-Boatbuilders.  Big amount of knowledge for free, so it's worth contributing. Thanks!

Thanks Galway Bay for switching my post to the right thread. I have made my donation. Cheers. Oldsailor.

Galway Bay said:

Patrick I think perhaps you intended to post this under "Composite Beams" so I took the liberty of copying it there as I wanted to reply to this very important topic.

And now back to fundraising folks - let's keep this valuable forum going with our small [ or large ] donations - thank you Chuck for the reminder !!

Hey Chuck,

Thanks for calling the question. I through in my donation.

Humorously, it's because of this site that I chose not to build. I learned through many pertinent posts a lot in short period of time. What I learned help me to realize that at my stage in life if I wanted to get on the water in a Wharram, built as I would like it, that I did not have the skill, time and especially the building site options to make it happen.  The site led me to Boatsmith who almost has my dream built. Along the way Ann and Nev also contributed valuable knowledge that led me to several design choices including the proper choice on ground tackle and the associated handling system.

Much thanks to those who make this site happen.

Brad

Cheers Chuckles,

Thanks for the prompting, to be honest I had not even thought of the running costs associated with this site, only how useful and enjoyable it has been.

Jobs done!

Cheers,
Shaun

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