Rigging loads for T38 - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T01:44:58Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/rigging-loads-for-t38?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A15810&feed=yes&xn_auth=nowhy don´t you use Norseman or…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-08-25:2195841:Comment:169372010-08-25T20:51:30.000ZBjörnhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Bjorn
why don´t you use Norseman or Stalock terminals? They are expensive but you can do them yourself and the can be reused.
why don´t you use Norseman or Stalock terminals? They are expensive but you can do them yourself and the can be reused. Hi All,
Just thought I'd mak…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-08-25:2195841:Comment:168902010-08-25T04:28:28.000ZJamie Rohanhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JamieRohan
Hi All,<br />
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Just thought I'd make an update my rigging on my T38.<br />
Since my last post I have replaced all my shrouds with 7mm Dynex Dux. I purchased the Dux from Hampidjan in New Zealand, whom offered the best price (considering exchange rates), and the fittings came from Colligo. I found the brummel splicing a breeze with the help of the video tutorials on the Colligo website.<br />
My wife and I have only had a two day sail in about 15kts so far, but i am very pleased with the rigs. I've been able to…
Hi All,<br />
<br />
Just thought I'd make an update my rigging on my T38.<br />
Since my last post I have replaced all my shrouds with 7mm Dynex Dux. I purchased the Dux from Hampidjan in New Zealand, whom offered the best price (considering exchange rates), and the fittings came from Colligo. I found the brummel splicing a breeze with the help of the video tutorials on the Colligo website.<br />
My wife and I have only had a two day sail in about 15kts so far, but i am very pleased with the rigs. I've been able to get some solid tension by using a halyard down to the tail of the lashings.<br />
We live in Brunei, SE Asia, where there are "NO" supplies for yachties, and trying to get 1x19SS flown in, and then find someone to hydraulically swage seemed impossible. Hence one of the many reasons we went with DUX. It was completely DIY!<br />
I will be replacing the forestay with SS when I get a chance, since i've got the roller furler. However, I will be modifying it so that has a thimble at the top, which will shackle to a DUX loop that goes around the mast. This should remove the risk of the SS loop fatiguing. There's a pic of my new shrouds on the website.<br />
Thanks to all those that offered advice about this type of rigging. It is not a stainless steel m…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-07-05:2195841:Comment:159312010-07-05T00:03:55.000ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
It is not a stainless steel mast band. The wooden cleats are through fastened through the wooden mast so the port side cleat and starboard side cleat are thru fastened to each other. Ann and Nev<br />
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<cite>Jamie Rohan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/rigging-loads-for-t38?page=2&commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A15879&x=1#2195841Comment15817"><div>Hi Ann and Nev.<br></br>Would you have a photo of the SS mast band that your f'stay attaches to? This sounds…</div>
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It is not a stainless steel mast band. The wooden cleats are through fastened through the wooden mast so the port side cleat and starboard side cleat are thru fastened to each other. Ann and Nev<br />
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<cite>Jamie Rohan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/rigging-loads-for-t38?page=2&commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A15879&x=1#2195841Comment15817"><div>Hi Ann and Nev.<br/>Would you have a photo of the SS mast band that your f'stay attaches to? This sounds like a great idea.<br/><br/>Thanks all, for ur info</div>
</blockquote> Hi Bjorn, thanks, yes the tra…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-07-02:2195841:Comment:158792010-07-02T23:16:38.000ZJamie Rohanhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JamieRohan
Hi Bjorn, thanks, yes the traveller works well. Certainly adequate to get a nice shape on the sail, and get all those telltails streaming. The "traveller rope" (track) is anchored around the beam ends with 1" tubular webbing. I also use 1" web for my headsal blocks. So far the only rot i've had in the boat is where the headsal tracks where mounted on the beam, so I got rid of them and their nasty little screw holes, and just use webbing around the beam.<br />
I've added a couple more pics which show…
Hi Bjorn, thanks, yes the traveller works well. Certainly adequate to get a nice shape on the sail, and get all those telltails streaming. The "traveller rope" (track) is anchored around the beam ends with 1" tubular webbing. I also use 1" web for my headsal blocks. So far the only rot i've had in the boat is where the headsal tracks where mounted on the beam, so I got rid of them and their nasty little screw holes, and just use webbing around the beam.<br />
I've added a couple more pics which show better the traveller arrangement.<br />
And also sent you message regarding your offer!<br />
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<cite>Björn said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/rigging-loads-for-t38?xg_source=activity&id=2195841%3ATopic%3A15658&page=2#2195841Comment15874"><div>Hi Jamie,<br/> <br/>
Nice pictures, I spotted some good mods on the rigging indicating that you know a bit about boats. How is the main sail traveller working out. After seeing it I am wondering why I had not the idea myself:-)<br/>
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If you are interested I have digitised all relevant construction details.<br/>
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Regards Björn</div>
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Nice pictures, I s…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-07-02:2195841:Comment:158742010-07-02T18:48:42.000ZBjörnhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Bjorn
Hi Jamie,<br />
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Nice pictures, I spotted some good mods on the rigging indicating that you know a bit about boats. How is the main sail traveller working out. After seeing it I am wondering why I had not the idea myself:-)<br />
<br />
If you are interested I have digitised all relevant construction details.<br />
<br />
Regards Björn
Hi Jamie,<br />
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Nice pictures, I spotted some good mods on the rigging indicating that you know a bit about boats. How is the main sail traveller working out. After seeing it I am wondering why I had not the idea myself:-)<br />
<br />
If you are interested I have digitised all relevant construction details.<br />
<br />
Regards Björn Jamie,
I went with Coliggo. I…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-07-01:2195841:Comment:158472010-07-01T11:09:10.000Zboatsmithhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/qe0j3ojqb10
Jamie,<br />
I went with Coliggo. I found them to be much more responsive than Precourt. John Franta at Coliggo has been very helpful.<br />
Dynex Dux is spectra that has been prestreched according to my understanding. David
Jamie,<br />
I went with Coliggo. I found them to be much more responsive than Precourt. John Franta at Coliggo has been very helpful.<br />
Dynex Dux is spectra that has been prestreched according to my understanding. David Hey David, which deadeye fitt…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-07-01:2195841:Comment:158442010-07-01T02:06:24.000ZJamie Rohanhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JamieRohan
Hey David, which deadeye fittings did you go with? I've been looking at the Colligo and Precourt options. I like the precourt SS chainplate fitting. I was a little concerned about electrolytic deterioration with the alloy fittings on my SS chainplate. They are too expensive not to be concerned about longevity!<br />
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So you found that spectra was "slipperier" than the dux? Any concerns about load ratings with spectra?<br />
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Jamie
Hey David, which deadeye fittings did you go with? I've been looking at the Colligo and Precourt options. I like the precourt SS chainplate fitting. I was a little concerned about electrolytic deterioration with the alloy fittings on my SS chainplate. They are too expensive not to be concerned about longevity!<br />
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So you found that spectra was "slipperier" than the dux? Any concerns about load ratings with spectra?<br />
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Jamie The standard rig for the Tiki…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-07-01:2195841:Comment:158222010-07-01T01:09:24.000Zboatsmithhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/qe0j3ojqb10
The standard rig for the Tiki 38 is a schooner with gaff luff pocket wing sails. The crab claw is an entirely different rig. You can use 6mm Dynex Dux as far as working load goes. I prefer to go with a larger diameter. This allows for creep to be less of an issue and also provides more reserve strength and is easier on the hands. We have been very happy with the Dynex on our Tiki 30. I also like to use the spectra line for the deadeye lanyards and the beam lashing frappings as it is very…
The standard rig for the Tiki 38 is a schooner with gaff luff pocket wing sails. The crab claw is an entirely different rig. You can use 6mm Dynex Dux as far as working load goes. I prefer to go with a larger diameter. This allows for creep to be less of an issue and also provides more reserve strength and is easier on the hands. We have been very happy with the Dynex on our Tiki 30. I also like to use the spectra line for the deadeye lanyards and the beam lashing frappings as it is very slippery and enables much tighter lashings. David Hi Ann and Nev.
Would you hav…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-07-01:2195841:Comment:158172010-07-01T00:33:01.000ZJamie Rohanhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JamieRohan
Hi Ann and Nev.<br />
Would you have a photo of the SS mast band that your f'stay attaches to? This sounds like a great idea.<br />
<br />
Thanks all, for ur info
Hi Ann and Nev.<br />
Would you have a photo of the SS mast band that your f'stay attaches to? This sounds like a great idea.<br />
<br />
Thanks all, for ur info HI, On Peace we have the litt…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-06-30:2195841:Comment:158112010-06-30T17:48:21.000ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
HI, On Peace we have the little wooden cleats (hooks) at the tops of the masts extra fastened with small threaded rod thru fastened to the opposite cleat and glued with epoxy and also recently filleted by me for extra security because it comforts me in stormy weather. If you have anything running through the inside of the mast, you must provide chafe gear against damage from the threaded rod such as a plastic water pipe pipe for wires etc. Ann and Nev<br />
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<cite>Jamie Rohan said:…</cite>
HI, On Peace we have the little wooden cleats (hooks) at the tops of the masts extra fastened with small threaded rod thru fastened to the opposite cleat and glued with epoxy and also recently filleted by me for extra security because it comforts me in stormy weather. If you have anything running through the inside of the mast, you must provide chafe gear against damage from the threaded rod such as a plastic water pipe pipe for wires etc. Ann and Nev<br />
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<cite>Jamie Rohan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/rigging-loads-for-t38#2195841Comment15757"><div>Oh and another question for those patient souls that have built their T38's, or have access to plans!. Can someone describe for me how the mast shroud "cleats" are constructed. These little bitty hooks at the top of the mast which the shrouds loops hook around. Do they have a thru bolt or something other than epoxy holding them on?</div>
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