registration red tape - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T05:36:06Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/registration-red-tape?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A41522&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMaybe the key is showing up o…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-11-28:2195841:Comment:652182011-11-28T14:23:03.962ZThomas Nielsenhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/ThomasNielsen
Maybe the key is showing up or leaving in a really small boat. Say something like Matt Layden's Paradox or Sven Yrvind's current vessel. The Berque twins pull it off too. Few bureaucrats have enough or the right forms to register something in the 13 to 18 foot range. It's sort of light you showed up either as a shipwreck survivor or with a wild hair bent on cruising a day sailor trams ocean. In most countries you can't even register a boat of that size. I circumnavigated Vancouver Island in a…
Maybe the key is showing up or leaving in a really small boat. Say something like Matt Layden's Paradox or Sven Yrvind's current vessel. The Berque twins pull it off too. Few bureaucrats have enough or the right forms to register something in the 13 to 18 foot range. It's sort of light you showed up either as a shipwreck survivor or with a wild hair bent on cruising a day sailor trams ocean. In most countries you can't even register a boat of that size. I circumnavigated Vancouver Island in a 13 foot dinghy a few years back starting out from my local boat launch in Seattle. Niether the Canadian or US customs could make heads or tails of it. They didn't have a form with the right box to check off! When you come to Brazil, do n…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-11-28:2195841:Comment:646582011-11-28T14:06:50.487ZRogerio Martinhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RogerioMartin
<p><span id="result_box" lang="en" xml:lang="en"><span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">When you come</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">to Brazil,</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">do not give</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">entry into</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">small ports</span><span class="gt-trans-draggable">, only</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">when you come to</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">a…</span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" lang="en" xml:lang="en"><span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">When you come</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">to Brazil,</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">do not give</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">entry into</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">small ports</span><span class="gt-trans-draggable">, only</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">when you come to</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">a</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">big city</span><span class="gt-trans-draggable">.</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">Here</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">foreign boats</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">can stay</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">60 days</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">renewable</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">for another 60 days</span><span class="gt-trans-draggable">.</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">Visas for</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">foreigners is not</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">difficult,</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">but the</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">boat after</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">120 days</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">have to leave</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">Brazilian waters</span><span class="gt-trans-draggable">, becouse</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">is considered</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">import</span>, <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">and the</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">tax is</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">60</span><span class="gt-trans-draggable">% of the</span> <span class="hps gt-trans-draggable">new boat.</span><span class="gt-trans-draggable">!</span></span></p> Paul, here's a snip from Alun…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-11-14:2195841:Comment:631952011-11-14T18:37:27.506Zkim whitmyrehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/kimwhitmyre
<p>Paul, here's a snip from <a href="http://alunaboat.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Aluna's Travel the World Blog</a> , Beat and Beatriz' crab-clawed tiki 38:</p>
<p>"We so far had always thought our disastrous financial situation would not allow us to visit the Southern extremity of that great Polynesian. New Zealand’s immigration regulation ask not only for Beatriz as a citizen of Colombia to obtain an advance visa before travelling to the country, but they also require of any visitor to…</p>
<p>Paul, here's a snip from <a href="http://alunaboat.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Aluna's Travel the World Blog</a> , Beat and Beatriz' crab-clawed tiki 38:</p>
<p>"We so far had always thought our disastrous financial situation would not allow us to visit the Southern extremity of that great Polynesian. New Zealand’s immigration regulation ask not only for Beatriz as a citizen of Colombia to obtain an advance visa before travelling to the country, but they also require of any visitor to show proof of economic fluency to the tune of one thousand dollars per person per month of the intended stay. For the two of us that would amount to the respectable amount of $12,000 for the six months we need to wait out the Southern cyclone season, which is way out of line with the little we call our own in terms of material wealth. A little more asking around and investigating during the last couple days brought that issue from up in the stratosphere down to sea level in an amazing fall of regulatory domino pieces. First of all the Kiwi’s proud themselves as a maritime nation that understands the needs of seafaring folks. Therefore if one arrives in a sailboat, which guarantees ones accommodation, the proof of funds is reduced to $400 per month. Secondly the New Zealand consulate in Nuku’alofa insisted in our inquiring phone calls that Beatriz needs to apply for a visa on her own, not with me as her partner. So all of a sudden we only need to have $2,400 in our pockets to pass through the pearly gates. Thirdly, and here is the absurdity of it all, a credit line on any major credit card counts as proof of funds! Am I the only one left on this planet to think that this is a little odd?"</p>
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<p>File that away for future use!</p> Ah,some creative solutions he…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-11-14:2195841:Comment:630972011-11-14T17:13:34.966Zpaul andersonhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/paulanderson
<p>Ah,some creative solutions here as always,it turns out for international sailing i can register as the master of the boat and say my mother or a mate with full Aussie citizenship as part owner.I see that australian customs have just arrested the crew of a yacht who had 300kg of nose candy on it,this kind of thing doesnot make it eady for the rest of us regular joes.</p>
<p>cheers paul.</p>
<p>Ah,some creative solutions here as always,it turns out for international sailing i can register as the master of the boat and say my mother or a mate with full Aussie citizenship as part owner.I see that australian customs have just arrested the crew of a yacht who had 300kg of nose candy on it,this kind of thing doesnot make it eady for the rest of us regular joes.</p>
<p>cheers paul.</p> The Hawaiian flag gets a lot…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-11-14:2195841:Comment:630902011-11-14T15:27:30.828Zandy solywodahttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/andysolywoda
<p>The Hawaiian flag gets a lot of compliments.</p>
<p>The Hawaiian flag gets a lot of compliments.</p> as your south African, the Is…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-11-14:2195841:Comment:627092011-11-14T14:35:10.116Zsirfbus1964http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/sirfbus1964
<p>as your south African, the Isle of man will let you register under their flag, a red ensign like the British but with a three legged emblem, most of their site deals with commercial vessels but they have next to no regs regarding small pleasure craft </p>
<p>as your south African, the Isle of man will let you register under their flag, a red ensign like the British but with a three legged emblem, most of their site deals with commercial vessels but they have next to no regs regarding small pleasure craft </p> The name of our boat i Peace…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-11:2195841:Comment:416912011-07-11T23:58:36.527ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
The name of our boat i Peace and I always wished we could have a flag that showed the whole earth from space and not any national flag at all.
The name of our boat i Peace and I always wished we could have a flag that showed the whole earth from space and not any national flag at all. Our expierince and observatio…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-11:2195841:Comment:415222011-07-11T15:26:35.143ZAnn and Neville Clementhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnnandNevilleClement922
<p>Our expierince and observation is that in Bahamas the locals are always watching and jealous of anybody working without working permits. Those working without permits are mostly Hatian work gangs in construction projects run by <br></br>Bahamian nationals so if you wish to work for yourself while living aboard, it needs to be kept very, very quiet. Eventually somebody reports you and you get kicked out of the country and cannot return. This is what happens in Abacos, anyway. Happened to…</p>
<p>Our expierince and observation is that in Bahamas the locals are always watching and jealous of anybody working without working permits. Those working without permits are mostly Hatian work gangs in construction projects run by <br/>Bahamian nationals so if you wish to work for yourself while living aboard, it needs to be kept very, very quiet. Eventually somebody reports you and you get kicked out of the country and cannot return. This is what happens in Abacos, anyway. Happened to several friends. Somebody is always watching or listening to the VHF radio and suspicious of every live aboard. They want Bahamians in jobs. Most Hatian workers are doing heavy labor type jobs.</p>
<p> Our experience re Gibraltar is pretty much out of date, but 15 + years ago, cruisers were finding work there fixing boats. </p>
<p> Our experience in the Dutch islands of the Carribean is that cruisers were eagerly hired in chandleries and other regular jobs. Don't know about working out of your own boat though. This is an interesting topic for many of us and likely lots of folks on this site will be able to give current info. I hope that happens.</p> I considered Gibraltar too, I…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-11:2195841:Comment:414162011-07-11T09:01:02.997ZGeminidawnhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Geminidawn
I considered Gibraltar too, I'm just going to wait and see what waters the Pahi will be working in and fly the nearest flag, South Pacific - the Cook Islands, West Atlantic - Bahamas, East Atlantic and the Med - Gibraltar. The more local the flag you fly the less hassle you'll get from customs and immigration.
I considered Gibraltar too, I'm just going to wait and see what waters the Pahi will be working in and fly the nearest flag, South Pacific - the Cook Islands, West Atlantic - Bahamas, East Atlantic and the Med - Gibraltar. The more local the flag you fly the less hassle you'll get from customs and immigration. Gibraltartag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2011-07-11:2195841:Comment:413302011-07-11T08:00:19.058ZOlivier R.http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/rouxolivier
Gibraltar
Gibraltar