Pahi 31 vs tiki 30 interior room - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T12:51:10Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/pahi-31-vs-tiki-30-interior-room?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A150340&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHello Kevin, so you are selli…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-05:2195841:Comment:1505192017-04-05T09:19:34.584Zbruno legennehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/brunolegenne
<p>Hello Kevin, so you are selling a Romany 34? Can you send me more infos, price, pictures and description please?</p>
<p>my email shaktimage at gmail.com<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Kevin Hutchinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/pahi-31-vs-tiki-30-interior-room#2195841Comment150489"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>How about a Romany 34 has way more room than both Tiki and pahi , probably more room than a Tiki 38 an I so happen to have one for…</p>
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<p>Hello Kevin, so you are selling a Romany 34? Can you send me more infos, price, pictures and description please?</p>
<p>my email shaktimage at gmail.com<br/> <br/> <cite>Kevin Hutchinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/pahi-31-vs-tiki-30-interior-room#2195841Comment150489"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>How about a Romany 34 has way more room than both Tiki and pahi , probably more room than a Tiki 38 an I so happen to have one for sale ...LOL</p>
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</blockquote> There are not many pictures o…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-04:2195841:Comment:1505082017-04-04T03:43:52.050ZAndréshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Andres
<p>There are not many pictures of the P31 in internet, in part it may be because the p31 is a "pre-internet" model.</p>
<p>You can find more info in the old magazines of the not longer existent Polynesian Catamaran Association. There is a link in <a href="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/pca-site-with-all-the-magazines-is-back-online" target="_blank">http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/pca-site-with-all-the-magazines-is-back-online</a></p>
<p>But, even in these magazines…</p>
<p>There are not many pictures of the P31 in internet, in part it may be because the p31 is a "pre-internet" model.</p>
<p>You can find more info in the old magazines of the not longer existent Polynesian Catamaran Association. There is a link in <a href="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/pca-site-with-all-the-magazines-is-back-online" target="_blank">http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/pca-site-with-all-the-magazines-is-back-online</a></p>
<p>But, even in these magazines there are not many articles about the p31. Perhaps not many have been built (in comparison with the other models). To me the P31 is a very particular design. It is ocean-going and is small enough to be easy to handle, but lacks standing headroom. Nor does the T30, but the P31 seems to be more oriented to long-term cruising, while the more simple T30 is more suited to short cruises, where people are less concerned about this last point. To me standing headroom in a small vessel is not important, but most people must prefer a bigger vessel with standing headroom.</p>
<p></p> I know but there is not many…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-04:2195841:Comment:1505072017-04-04T02:53:18.093ZValery Gaulinhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/ValeryGaulin
I know but there is not many pictures, Anyway not as many as for the tiki 30.
I know but there is not many pictures, Anyway not as many as for the tiki 30. In the top right corner of th…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-04:2195841:Comment:1504282017-04-04T02:15:28.637ZAndréshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Andres
<p>In the top right corner of this page there is a search button, if you write "pahi 31" then you will find some pictures.</p>
<p>Also you can join the "Small Pahi Group" in this forum, where there are some pictures and information about the p31.</p>
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<p>In the top right corner of this page there is a search button, if you write "pahi 31" then you will find some pictures.</p>
<p>Also you can join the "Small Pahi Group" in this forum, where there are some pictures and information about the p31.</p>
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<p></p> Never thought about this!!! V…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-03:2195841:Comment:1505052017-04-03T22:44:23.690ZValery Gaulinhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/ValeryGaulin
Never thought about this!!! Very Good point. That is a really good description of a possible situation.<br />
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I am trying to find video or interior shot of a Pahi 31 and it seams to really difficult. Can someone give me a good link of a Pahi 31 tour. Thank you
Never thought about this!!! Very Good point. That is a really good description of a possible situation.<br />
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I am trying to find video or interior shot of a Pahi 31 and it seams to really difficult. Can someone give me a good link of a Pahi 31 tour. Thank you I think it is an interesting…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-03:2195841:Comment:1502692017-04-03T22:10:59.874ZAndréshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Andres
<p>I think it is an interesting observation, and your description of the possible scene is pretty scary!</p>
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<p>I think it is an interesting observation, and your description of the possible scene is pretty scary!</p>
<p></p> It is not wise to sleep with…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-03:2195841:Comment:1503582017-04-03T21:24:59.017ZBudget Boaterhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/BudgetBoater
<p>It is not wise to sleep with one's head towards the bow while underway. If a boat traveling at 5 knots impacts a solid object (reef, land, piling, etc.) and comes to a sudden stop, the forward momentum of your relaxed body will pass through your neck when your head stops at the bulkhead, likely breaking your neck.</p>
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<p>It is not wise to sleep with one's head towards the bow while underway. If a boat traveling at 5 knots impacts a solid object (reef, land, piling, etc.) and comes to a sudden stop, the forward momentum of your relaxed body will pass through your neck when your head stops at the bulkhead, likely breaking your neck.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/pahi-31-vs-tiki-30-interior-room#2195841Comment150343"><div><p>However to me the interior layout of the T30 seems to be more comfortable: you can sleep with your head pointing to the bow (more easy to get into and out othe bed)</p>
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</blockquote> I think you are right about t…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-03:2195841:Comment:1504192017-04-03T03:20:50.317ZValery Gaulinhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/ValeryGaulin
<p>I think you are right about the cost of building the Pahi 31 being higher than the Tiki 30. Probably the time to build might also ba more work.</p>
<p>One thing that I don't trust is the time estimate that Wharram post on the website for any design. I think it is complete BS. The reality is probably more like twice the time estimate if not more. </p>
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<p>Maybe I should ask in a post, to see what people answer. Maybe the people that build a catamaran can tell us if it took more or less…</p>
<p>I think you are right about the cost of building the Pahi 31 being higher than the Tiki 30. Probably the time to build might also ba more work.</p>
<p>One thing that I don't trust is the time estimate that Wharram post on the website for any design. I think it is complete BS. The reality is probably more like twice the time estimate if not more. </p>
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<p>Maybe I should ask in a post, to see what people answer. Maybe the people that build a catamaran can tell us if it took more or less the time estimated?</p> I don't have any of these des…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-02:2195841:Comment:1503432017-04-02T18:07:54.650ZAndréshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Andres
<p>I don't have any of these designs (I own a Tiki 26), but for the pictures that I have seen, the Pahi 31 has more interior volume than the Tiki 30. However to me the interior layout of the T30 seems to be more comfortable: you can sleep with your head pointing to the bow (more easy to get into and out othe bed) and you enter into the cabin by a side companionway instead of a deck hatch. Note that in the P31 there is a semibulkhead over the bed that can lead to head bumping if you try to sleep…</p>
<p>I don't have any of these designs (I own a Tiki 26), but for the pictures that I have seen, the Pahi 31 has more interior volume than the Tiki 30. However to me the interior layout of the T30 seems to be more comfortable: you can sleep with your head pointing to the bow (more easy to get into and out othe bed) and you enter into the cabin by a side companionway instead of a deck hatch. Note that in the P31 there is a semibulkhead over the bed that can lead to head bumping if you try to sleep head forward. But, in the other hand, the P31 has a separated head and a cabin with a kitchen and a table that could be very nice to have when there is some cold.</p>
<p>Also the P31 is a more older design, and it is more complicated and expensive to build than the Tikis or the Ethnic designs. I have a 2003 price list from JWD in which the estimate cost in pounds excl. VAT for building a T30 is 11.000 and 15.000 for the P31. I suppose the cost are bigger now, but what matters is that the P31 cost 36 % more to build than the T30. Also the building time estimate by JWD for the P31 is 1.500 hrs against 900 hrs for the T30, that is 66 % more time.</p>
<p>To me, if you prefer the P31, then it makes more sense to buy a good used one and possibly make some changes to improve it. I don't think the above comments about the accommodation are a big problem, for example the entry to the cabin, with some effort, can be changed to a side companionway (there are reports about that modifications in the old Sea People magazine).</p> I am currently studying plans…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-04-02:2195841:Comment:1503402017-04-02T16:03:39.513ZValery Gaulinhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/ValeryGaulin
I am currently studying plans that i just bought. Pahi 31, Windsong and Coral cove 31.<br />
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Romany is starting to get a little to big to build by myself. I want to be able to finish it!!! LOL<br />
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The Coral Cove 31 seams to nicest design but it looks like alot more work! I would even say double the work!<br />
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The overall beam is also a concern if I want to stop at a marina wjile travelling, Going from 16 ft to 18+ft is alot different in marina fees. I actually like to old 14 foot beam of the Pahi 31…
I am currently studying plans that i just bought. Pahi 31, Windsong and Coral cove 31.<br />
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Romany is starting to get a little to big to build by myself. I want to be able to finish it!!! LOL<br />
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The Coral Cove 31 seams to nicest design but it looks like alot more work! I would even say double the work!<br />
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The overall beam is also a concern if I want to stop at a marina wjile travelling, Going from 16 ft to 18+ft is alot different in marina fees. I actually like to old 14 foot beam of the Pahi 31 design. It fits in a regular slip.<br />
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It is all about pros and cons