outrigger sailing canoes.. - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T12:36:47Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/outrigger-sailing-canoes?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A13032&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBump!
Waapa is not stitch-an…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-12-27:2195841:Comment:1118192013-12-27T15:02:18.087ZPete Cresswellhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/PeteCresswell
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<p>Waapa is not stitch-and-glue.</p>
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<p>Chesapeake Bay Light Craft ("CLC") has recently come out with a 16-footer that is stitch-and-glue (and which I find quite attractive in it's own right): <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.clcboats.com/life-of-boats-blog/clc-outrigger-junior-first-sail.html">http://www.clcboats.com/life-of-boats-blog/clc-outrigger-junior-fir...</a></p>
<p>Bump!</p>
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<p>Waapa is not stitch-and-glue.</p>
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<p>Chesapeake Bay Light Craft ("CLC") has recently come out with a 16-footer that is stitch-and-glue (and which I find quite attractive in it's own right): <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.clcboats.com/life-of-boats-blog/clc-outrigger-junior-first-sail.html">http://www.clcboats.com/life-of-boats-blog/clc-outrigger-junior-fir...</a></p> Anthony Collison; Sounds good…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2013-05-08:2195841:Comment:1000322013-05-08T04:51:22.009ZAnthony Curtis Collisonhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AnthonyCurtisCollison408
<p>Anthony Collison; Sounds good you can always carry it along for a dink,My first build was a 21 ft clc kayak modifed cause I'm a larger guy, the plans I used were well detailed just follow directions and you should be fine,though I would read up on what ever glues and resin mixes you will be useing,also choices in fill materail for your fillets,take your time don't rush and you,ll do fine.good luck.</p>
<p>Anthony Collison; Sounds good you can always carry it along for a dink,My first build was a 21 ft clc kayak modifed cause I'm a larger guy, the plans I used were well detailed just follow directions and you should be fine,though I would read up on what ever glues and resin mixes you will be useing,also choices in fill materail for your fillets,take your time don't rush and you,ll do fine.good luck.</p> i have a slightly diferent op…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-02-28:2195841:Comment:130482010-02-28T00:27:57.000ZJohn Galileehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/underbeing
i have a slightly diferent opinion because i like the Melanesia as in the plans, with the hawiain style sail, no rudder and the log style ama. This style rig puts the centre of effort of the sail in just the right place, so that the stearing ore/paddle is a delight to use. The heavy solid ama is fun because it requires concentation to keep the canoe balanced. Its built in the spirit of an ancient design and it works. I'll put some pics up later.<br />
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JOhn
i have a slightly diferent opinion because i like the Melanesia as in the plans, with the hawiain style sail, no rudder and the log style ama. This style rig puts the centre of effort of the sail in just the right place, so that the stearing ore/paddle is a delight to use. The heavy solid ama is fun because it requires concentation to keep the canoe balanced. Its built in the spirit of an ancient design and it works. I'll put some pics up later.<br />
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JOhn Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the grea…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-02-26:2195841:Comment:130402010-02-26T23:45:38.000ZJoshua del Marhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JoshuadelMar
Hi Kevin,<br />
Thanks for the great pics! She's beautiful.... How long did it take you to build? I checked out your website too.. Great artwork! Cheers, Josh.<br />
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<cite>Kevin Hutchinson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/outrigger-sailing-canoes#2195841Comment13032"><div><p style="text-align: left;"><img alt="" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930082961?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="521"></img></p>
Hello, I have a melanesia . I made several modification from plans.<p style="text-align: left;"><img alt="" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930082996?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></p>
The ama needs to have much more…</div>
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Hi Kevin,<br />
Thanks for the great pics! She's beautiful.... How long did it take you to build? I checked out your website too.. Great artwork! Cheers, Josh.<br />
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<cite>Kevin Hutchinson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/outrigger-sailing-canoes#2195841Comment13032"><div><p style="text-align: left;"><img width="521" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930082961?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" alt=""/></p>
Hello, I have a melanesia . I made several modification from plans.<p style="text-align: left;"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930082996?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" alt=""/></p>
The ama needs to have much more flotation. If you don't the ama will bury whens its to leeward causing lots of drag. Make it like a half a trimaran. Build a rudder and life will be much easier. Deck over the entire main hull. I did not do this so I must always slow down in waves or I take aboard buckets of water. Crab claws sails suck !! I know I sailed mine with one for over a year. Build a burmuda sail or get a used windsurfer rig. I hope to post my boats story shortly...Kevin</div>
</blockquote> Hello, I have a melanesia .…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-02-26:2195841:Comment:130322010-02-26T00:03:28.000ZKevin Hutchinsonhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/KevinHutchinson
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Hello, I have a melanesia . I made several modification from plans.<p style="text-align: left;"><img alt="" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930082996?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></p>
The ama needs to have much more flotation. If you don't the ama will bury whens its to leeward causing lots of drag. Make it like a half a trimaran. Build a rudder and life will be much easier. Deck over the entire main hull. I did not do this so I must always slow down in waves or I take aboard buckets of water. Crab claws sails suck !! I…
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Hello, I have a melanesia . I made several modification from plans.<p style="text-align: left;"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1930082996?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" alt=""/></p>
The ama needs to have much more flotation. If you don't the ama will bury whens its to leeward causing lots of drag. Make it like a half a trimaran. Build a rudder and life will be much easier. Deck over the entire main hull. I did not do this so I must always slow down in waves or I take aboard buckets of water. Crab claws sails suck !! I know I sailed mine with one for over a year. Build a burmuda sail or get a used windsurfer rig. I hope to post my boats story shortly...Kevin Hi Rod,
Thanks for the links.…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-02-24:2195841:Comment:130132010-02-24T21:51:17.000ZJoshua del Marhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JoshuadelMar
Hi Rod,<br />
Thanks for the links... Will check them out! Josh :o)<br />
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<cite>Rodney Swann said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/outrigger-sailing-canoes?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A13011#2195841Comment12999"><div>If you are determined to build something else first. Google "Cheap canoe". That is the most simple stitch and glue boat that I am aware of. Or if you want to build a small sailing dingy, as has been suggested. I would recommend googling "duckworks", go to…</div>
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Hi Rod,<br />
Thanks for the links... Will check them out! Josh :o)<br />
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<cite>Rodney Swann said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/outrigger-sailing-canoes?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A13011#2195841Comment12999"><div>If you are determined to build something else first. Google "Cheap canoe". That is the most simple stitch and glue boat that I am aware of. Or if you want to build a small sailing dingy, as has been suggested. I would recommend googling "duckworks", go to "plans", click on Jim Mcalek (sp?) and check out the Mayfly 12, Mayfly 14 and Mayfly 16. Those are some pretty simple dinghies.<br/> <br/>
Good luck!</div>
</blockquote> Hi John,
Thanks for the reply…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-02-24:2195841:Comment:130122010-02-24T21:37:57.000ZJoshua del Marhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/JoshuadelMar
Hi John,<br />
Thanks for the reply. How do you find its performance? Ive got gary's book which has a lot of info on his designs, but haven't read or seen too much about the Melanesia... Have you got any photos???<br />
Josh :o)
Hi John,<br />
Thanks for the reply. How do you find its performance? Ive got gary's book which has a lot of info on his designs, but haven't read or seen too much about the Melanesia... Have you got any photos???<br />
Josh :o) I bought my Melanesia second…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-02-24:2195841:Comment:130112010-02-24T21:26:23.000ZJohn Galileehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/underbeing
I bought my Melanesia second hand but its clearly built using the same techniques as bigger wharrams. The main reason why you should build one though is because sailing it will put a huge smile on your face!
I bought my Melanesia second hand but its clearly built using the same techniques as bigger wharrams. The main reason why you should build one though is because sailing it will put a huge smile on your face! Hi. Liz Wood here from JWD of…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-02-24:2195841:Comment:130052010-02-24T17:05:48.000ZLiz at James Wharram Designshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/LizatJamesWharramDesigns
Hi. Liz Wood here from JWD office. Yes, a crab claw sail can easily be fitted to the T21 and we do now sell a rig conversion package for this. It costs GBPounds 80.00 plus p&p and VAT. So... now you all know!
Hi. Liz Wood here from JWD office. Yes, a crab claw sail can easily be fitted to the T21 and we do now sell a rig conversion package for this. It costs GBPounds 80.00 plus p&p and VAT. So... now you all know! If you are determined to buil…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2010-02-24:2195841:Comment:129992010-02-24T09:33:57.000ZRodney Swannhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RodneySwann
If you are determined to build something else first. Google "Cheap canoe". That is the most simple stitch and glue boat that I am aware of. Or if you want to build a small sailing dingy, as has been suggested. I would recommend googling "duckworks", go to "plans", click on Jim Mcalek (sp?) and check out the Mayfly 12, Mayfly 14 and Mayfly 16. Those are some pretty simple dinghies.<br />
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Good luck!
If you are determined to build something else first. Google "Cheap canoe". That is the most simple stitch and glue boat that I am aware of. Or if you want to build a small sailing dingy, as has been suggested. I would recommend googling "duckworks", go to "plans", click on Jim Mcalek (sp?) and check out the Mayfly 12, Mayfly 14 and Mayfly 16. Those are some pretty simple dinghies.<br />
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Good luck!