Mana 24 - A new Wharram design? - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T20:35:38Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/mana-24-a-new-wharram-design?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A168820&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI really like the chined hull…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2019-08-12:2195841:Comment:1688202019-08-12T21:41:52.320ZMBVhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/MarianoVillafane
<p>I really like the chined hull design of the Mana 24. Specially because of the interior space, the "keel", that I suppose give's her a better tack angle than the traditional tikis, and also the new position of the hull hatches, more forward, that gives it space for the stern bunks.</p>
<p>But, and there is always a "but", I don't really like the rigging configuration of the boat... I'd better prefer the main and gib configuration of the Tiki's, for simplicity, for having just one mast and…</p>
<p>I really like the chined hull design of the Mana 24. Specially because of the interior space, the "keel", that I suppose give's her a better tack angle than the traditional tikis, and also the new position of the hull hatches, more forward, that gives it space for the stern bunks.</p>
<p>But, and there is always a "but", I don't really like the rigging configuration of the boat... I'd better prefer the main and gib configuration of the Tiki's, for simplicity, for having just one mast and also because its just more beautiful...</p>
<p>Did anyone knows about someone that tried a mixed configuration? I mean, a Mana 24 with a Tiki rigging? or even a Tiki 21 or 26 with Mana like hulls?</p> Looks like this is getting so…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-10-10:2195841:Comment:1222862014-10-10T14:28:17.581ZBrianhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Brian
<p>Looks like this is getting some coverage at Wooden Boat as well.</p>
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<p>Looks like this is getting some coverage at Wooden Boat as well.</p>
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<p></p> I wish that they'd not abando…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-09-21:2195841:Comment:1215742014-09-21T11:42:38.635Zjohn elwyn kimberhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/johnelwynkimber
<p>I wish that they'd not abandoned the Tiki 24 Millennium, whicn was a true improvement on the Hinemoa. Nice ideas but the whole concept is still Hinemoa-sized. I think this boat will have limited appeal for families on a budget wanting to sail coastal passages, which remains the size of boat for which the Wharrams have never really provided a definitive solution - just that bit bigger than a Hinemoa but cheaper than a Tiki 26, with options on cabin-tops/no cabin-tops and other accessories.…</p>
<p>I wish that they'd not abandoned the Tiki 24 Millennium, whicn was a true improvement on the Hinemoa. Nice ideas but the whole concept is still Hinemoa-sized. I think this boat will have limited appeal for families on a budget wanting to sail coastal passages, which remains the size of boat for which the Wharrams have never really provided a definitive solution - just that bit bigger than a Hinemoa but cheaper than a Tiki 26, with options on cabin-tops/no cabin-tops and other accessories. The 'Millennium' had vital statistics that were just right for coastal hopping and ditch-crawling, including keeping the overall beam under control. I am still pondering my own build because nothing quite fits the bill. The Tiki 24 would have been 'it' - I don't think this is quite There. I am resigning myself to having to work from Tiki 21 plans and scale everything up.<br/><br/>Overall I think the Wharrams don't provide enough variants on their basic designs. Compare John Marples' portfolio and there is a lot more choice - if you like small trimarans......</p>
<p></p> thnx Eric. yes an interesting…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-08-26:2195841:Comment:1204802014-08-26T05:26:08.383Zpaul andersonhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/paulanderson
<p>thnx Eric. yes an interesting sailplan.</p>
<p>thnx Eric. yes an interesting sailplan.</p> As far as I know, small mizze…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-08-25:2195841:Comment:1207022014-08-25T09:41:15.228ZÉric Bouvéronhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Bouveron
<p>As far as I know, small mizzen sail at the back is efficient for balance, more than for power. (It is not true for a ketch rig, where the sail is bigger) A very famous example is the yawl Sea Bird. However, my concern here is the lack of head sails, since they are quite useful when it is time to tack. But I've seen here (<a href="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-junk-rig-leeway" target="_blank">http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-junk-rig-leeway</a>) a…</p>
<p>As far as I know, small mizzen sail at the back is efficient for balance, more than for power. (It is not true for a ketch rig, where the sail is bigger) A very famous example is the yawl Sea Bird. However, my concern here is the lack of head sails, since they are quite useful when it is time to tack. But I've seen here (<a href="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-junk-rig-leeway" target="_blank">http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/tiki-21-junk-rig-leeway</a>) a Tiki 21 with a "Vietnamese junk rig", no jib either... Let's see the sea trials!</p> Why the small sail?tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-08-24:2195841:Comment:1206982014-08-24T20:49:22.887Zpaul andersonhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/paulanderson
<p>Why the small sail?</p>
<p>Why the small sail?</p> The Mana 24 seems like a very…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-08-23:2195841:Comment:1206402014-08-23T14:31:18.187ZKristian Paulssonhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/KristianPaulsson
<p>The Mana 24 seems like a very nice boat! It will be interesting to see how it sails and tacks. </p>
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<p>The Mana 24 seems like a very nice boat! It will be interesting to see how it sails and tacks. </p>
<p>/Kristian.</p> The new design is now on th…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-08-23:2195841:Comment:1204622014-08-23T10:00:44.307ZMartin Phillipshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/MartinPhillips
<p><img src="http://wharram.com/site/sites/default/files/mana24-sailplan-t.jpg" alt="Mana 24 Sail Plan"/></p>
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<p>The new design is now on the Wharram website!!</p>
<p><img src="http://wharram.com/site/sites/default/files/mana24-sailplan-t.jpg" alt="Mana 24 Sail Plan"/></p>
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<p>The new design is now on the Wharram website!!</p> Anyone know anything more? S…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-07-31:2195841:Comment:1195652014-07-31T01:58:55.927ZBrianhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Brian
<p>Anyone know anything more? Still nothing on the Wharram site that I can find.</p>
<p>Anyone know anything more? Still nothing on the Wharram site that I can find.</p> Thanks Martin. It seems to be…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2014-07-09:2195841:Comment:1190632014-07-09T15:37:22.337ZAndréshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Andres
<p>Thanks Martin. It seems to be very interesting.</p>
<p>Thanks Martin. It seems to be very interesting.</p>