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Hi guys, this is Giovani from Brazil, I am currently about to finish building a Tiki 38. I intent to live aboard.
Here in Brazil we have basically sunny days despite I would like a protect shelter in case of rain. We have a lot of rain here also...I´d like space to have guests on board, something like a living room, when sailing and at anchor.


Anyone has ideas to improve the deckpod. I really like Luckyfish´s pod.
I am considereing to lower to floor about 100mm and maybe rising the sits a bit.
I consider make the pod bigger extending aft.
And make a rigid roof with solar pannels above.

Do you guys consider extend the sides too? Does it make the corridor to the hulls too narrow? I like Neil´s advice (Gleda) It would be nice to be able to seat four people for dinner and have seating for maybe six people to drink.
One big concern is the extra weigh perhaps. Or it´s just exchange wood from the corridor floor to the pod?


Anyway I apprecciate all the comments especially from those who live aboard a Tiki 38.
Thank you very much, I hope to see you soon in the water...
Giovani

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Really good idea to widen the cockpit to the coach roofs but I´m planning to close the pod like Tikimata. Do you have a word on that? Can you tell me the distance from mast beam and the foot of mainsail. Thank you Budget for your help in the community.


Budget Boater said:

The video that Chuck provided is the cockpit that I designed for his Tiki 38. There is a hard top with solar panels (not shown in the video) and curtains that allow complete enclosure of the cockpit (not shown in the video) that allow for anything (including sleeping) in the cockpit. The video shows the lowered floor, and extended cockpit with larger seating/sleeping areas than in the original design. The cockpit can easily seat 8-10 comfortably with or without a table.

Because we are in launch phase, the hardtop and side curtains are not currently attached, and a table has not yet been constructed.

My suggestion to you (based on your modifications) is to widen the cockpit all the way to the coach roofs, and use the sloped coach roofs as seat backs. Regardless, you are constrained by the distance between the mast beam and beam 3, which is too short for bunks. The only available space is over beam 3 as was done on Chuck's Tiki 38 "Dog" as shown in the video.

Giovani Frisene said:

Thank you Budget for your ideias. I will widen the pod and lower the floor 100mm. I will stick with the idea to have a bunk with a roof in the aft. I´m not sure about the roof in the helmsman area. Do I put a rigid roof and a solar pannel or a removeble awning? 

Budget Boater said:

The two primary modifications you could make would be to widen the cockpit and use your modified coachroofs as seat backs, and to overhang a seating area on beam three (as done on Chuck's Tiki 38).

However, the space between beam 2 and the mast beam is quite large. While at anchor, you can suspend a canvas cover between the masts and use this area for lounging, eating, etc.

As far as building a hard enclosure for the cockpit, it is all about what you design. I prefer a hard top, with soft enclosure so that soft sides can be added to shelter the main cabin and galley hatches and allow many options for ventilation. I do not have any information to offer for a hard cockpit enclosure since I have never built one.

I do not know the dimension you seek.

Yeah, Budget I know what you mean. That´s why I am so confused and in doubt to build something totally different from the plans. I am so hesitating about that, I am afraid to do something ugly or too heavy.
I prefer a hard top too. Soft enclosure seems to be nice and preferable. Someone told me this soft enclosure can be very annoying when wind beats hard on. At the same time, a hard enclosure does not offer me an option and will be heavier.
Up to now, Tikimata´s pod inspire me, but as I said, a hard enclosure is already a doubt...Anyway, I am going to start with the floor and see how things coming up. I´ll put some pictures of my progress to you guys give me some ideas. Thanks a lot for your support.

A properly built soft enclosure will not flap at all. The design must include a means to add tension as the material stretches over time, so as to keep it very tight. Distances between rails will keep the material panels smaller which will reduce/eliminate movement in higher winds. Like anything else, it is all about the design. I leave my canvas work up to professionals in that field an have yet to be disappointed.

Giovani Frisene said:

Yeah, Budget I know what you mean. That´s why I am so confused and in doubt to build something totally different from the plans. I am so hesitating about that, I am afraid to do something ugly or too heavy.
I prefer a hard top too. Soft enclosure seems to be nice and preferable. Someone told me this soft enclosure can be very annoying when wind beats hard on. At the same time, a hard enclosure does not offer me an option and will be heavier.
Up to now, Tikimata´s pod inspire me, but as I said, a hard enclosure is already a doubt...Anyway, I am going to start with the floor and see how things coming up. I´ll put some pictures of my progress to you guys give me some ideas. Thanks a lot for your support.

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