Continuous Line Furler on Tiki 21 - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-28T12:28:25Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/continuous-line-furler-on-tiki-21?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A157053&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=no I would not fuff around usin…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-11-28:2195841:Comment:1570922017-11-28T09:02:40.322ZMaxim Jurgenshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/MaximJurgens
<p> I would not fuff around using a code zero furler as a head sail reefer . It was not intended for the job and is unlikely to work satisfactorily . If you could lay your hand on a set of foils you could possibly convert the furler in to a reefer but with a Plastimo 406 proper head sail furler costing just 270 ,- GBP there is probably little point in doing so .</p>
<p>We had one on our Hitia 24 and I never had any problem with it . Excellent value for money .</p>
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<p> I would not fuff around using a code zero furler as a head sail reefer . It was not intended for the job and is unlikely to work satisfactorily . If you could lay your hand on a set of foils you could possibly convert the furler in to a reefer but with a Plastimo 406 proper head sail furler costing just 270 ,- GBP there is probably little point in doing so .</p>
<p>We had one on our Hitia 24 and I never had any problem with it . Excellent value for money .</p>
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<p>Siam Sailing, Phuket</p> Roger said:Hi Ian,
I looke…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-11-27:2195841:Comment:1570532017-11-27T01:18:08.641ZÉric Bouvéronhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Bouveron
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<cite>Roger said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/continuous-line-furler-on-tiki-21?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A142607#2195841Comment142187"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Ian,</p>
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<p>I looked into these too. They are designed for flying sails with a wire luff (genneker, screecher, stay sail). It was no good for me because I was looking for a cheap asymmetric furler (no wire luff). Jib furlers are so expensive, that my budget…</p>
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<cite>Roger said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/continuous-line-furler-on-tiki-21?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A142607#2195841Comment142187"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Ian,</p>
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<p>I looked into these too. They are designed for flying sails with a wire luff (genneker, screecher, stay sail). It was no good for me because I was looking for a cheap asymmetric furler (no wire luff). Jib furlers are so expensive, that my budget solution is to run a downhaul line from the peak of the sail, to the tack, and back to the mast, so that I can quickly douse the sail and keep it down, without going forward.</p>
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Roger,<br />
I do not perfectly understand your rig. May you explain again please?<br />
Thanks, Éric You can use twisted shackles.tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-05-09:2195841:Comment:1426072016-05-09T19:24:17.099Zsailorjoyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/sailorjoy
<p>You can use twisted shackles.</p>
<p>You can use twisted shackles.</p> The would be ok, but it would…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-05-09:2195841:Comment:1424992016-05-09T15:26:52.657ZIan Bamseyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBamsey
<p>The would be ok, but it would give about a half turn of slack, which is a bit ugly.<br/> <br/> <cite>sailorjoy said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/continuous-line-furler-on-tiki-21?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A142187&xg_source=activity#2195841Comment142416"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>Why removing the thimble? Try to fix the thimble with a shackle on the fork.</p>
<p>Jan</p>
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<p>The would be ok, but it would give about a half turn of slack, which is a bit ugly.<br/> <br/> <cite>sailorjoy said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/continuous-line-furler-on-tiki-21?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A142187&xg_source=activity#2195841Comment142416"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>Why removing the thimble? Try to fix the thimble with a shackle on the fork.</p>
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</blockquote> Hi Ian,
Why removing the thim…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-05-09:2195841:Comment:1424162016-05-09T15:24:26.787Zsailorjoyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/sailorjoy
<p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>Why removing the thimble? Try to fix the thimble with a shackle on the fork.</p>
<p>Jan</p>
<p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>Why removing the thimble? Try to fix the thimble with a shackle on the fork.</p>
<p>Jan</p> Thanks Roger, helpful stuff.…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-05-09:2195841:Comment:1426032016-05-09T15:09:07.398ZIan Bamseyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBamsey
<p>Thanks Roger, helpful stuff. My foresail has a steel wire sewn into the luff. Currently I have a drum at the bottom, and the swivel at the top. It works OK, but the line can easily run off the drum and snag, or in a blow, the sail is so tightly wound in that you run out of turns before it is full away. I cannot reef the current system (or I've not really tried in a blow).</p>
<p>I think this Ronstan system would work ok for me. The continuous line removes one problem an the captive line…</p>
<p>Thanks Roger, helpful stuff. My foresail has a steel wire sewn into the luff. Currently I have a drum at the bottom, and the swivel at the top. It works OK, but the line can easily run off the drum and snag, or in a blow, the sail is so tightly wound in that you run out of turns before it is full away. I cannot reef the current system (or I've not really tried in a blow).</p>
<p>I think this Ronstan system would work ok for me. The continuous line removes one problem an the captive line shouldn't snag. I will need to remove the thimble at each end of the current wire and have terminals swagged on that will fit the 6mm fork in new furler and swivel.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
<p>P.S. I'm back in the water on the weekend!</p> Hi Roger,
This is a cheap, tr…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-05-09:2195841:Comment:1424982016-05-09T15:04:15.510Zsailorjoyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/sailorjoy
<p>Hi Roger,</p>
<p>This is a cheap, traditional and easy solution working since 500 years. A real " Wharramstyle"!</p>
<p>Jan</p>
<p>Hi Roger,</p>
<p>This is a cheap, traditional and easy solution working since 500 years. A real " Wharramstyle"!</p>
<p>Jan</p> Hi Ian,
I looked into these…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-05-09:2195841:Comment:1421872016-05-09T14:57:55.138ZRogerhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RogerSullivan
<p>Hi Ian,</p>
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<p>I looked into these too. They are designed for flying sails with a wire luff (genneker, screecher, stay sail). It was no good for me because I was looking for a cheap asymmetric furler (no wire luff). Jib furlers are so expensive, that my budget solution is to run a downhaul line from the peak of the sail, to the tack, and back to the mast, so that I can quickly douse the sail and keep it down, without going forward.</p>
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<p>Roger</p>
<p>Hi Ian,</p>
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<p>I looked into these too. They are designed for flying sails with a wire luff (genneker, screecher, stay sail). It was no good for me because I was looking for a cheap asymmetric furler (no wire luff). Jib furlers are so expensive, that my budget solution is to run a downhaul line from the peak of the sail, to the tack, and back to the mast, so that I can quickly douse the sail and keep it down, without going forward.</p>
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<p>Roger</p> I find it necessary to reef t…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-05-09:2195841:Comment:1426022016-05-09T14:23:40.964Zsailorjoyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/sailorjoy
<p>I find it necessary to reef the headsail in stormy conditions because with the headsail it is easier to tack. You didn´t need a new headsail you can install a reef in your old sail. But you can´t furl it when it is reefed.</p>
<p>Talk about this with your sailmaker.</p>
<p>Jan</p>
<p>I find it necessary to reef the headsail in stormy conditions because with the headsail it is easier to tack. You didn´t need a new headsail you can install a reef in your old sail. But you can´t furl it when it is reefed.</p>
<p>Talk about this with your sailmaker.</p>
<p>Jan</p> Thanks for the comments here.…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2016-05-09:2195841:Comment:1425992016-05-09T10:43:27.083ZIan Bamseyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBamsey
<p>Thanks for the comments here. I guess the point is therefore about reefing. My current setup is only a furler, so it's no different. I cannot currently reef the headsail, only the main. To change this I need a new head sail.</p>
<p>My sailing is southwest UK coastal cruising, perhaps a channel crossing. How much of a problem do Tiki 21 sailors think not being able to reef the head sail is?</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments here. I guess the point is therefore about reefing. My current setup is only a furler, so it's no different. I cannot currently reef the headsail, only the main. To change this I need a new head sail.</p>
<p>My sailing is southwest UK coastal cruising, perhaps a channel crossing. How much of a problem do Tiki 21 sailors think not being able to reef the head sail is?</p>