Beams upgrade?? on a tiki21 - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T08:13:22Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/beams-upgrade-on-a-tiki21?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A80428&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMark
If you still want to go…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-23:2195841:Comment:802762012-08-23T16:26:28.694ZIan Bushrodhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBushrod
<p>Mark</p>
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<p>If you still want to go down the aluminium route my email address is eileen@braemuir.fsnet.co.uk</p>
<p>Ian</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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<p>If you still want to go down the aluminium route my email address is eileen@braemuir.fsnet.co.uk</p>
<p>Ian</p> hi ian
thats very intresting…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-21:2195841:Comment:804452012-08-21T22:55:37.526ZMark Cosgrovehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/MarkCosgrove
<p>hi ian </p>
<p>thats very intresting... i am considering modding a bit more to accomadate different beams...maybe we could do deal ... if nothing else you could get some garden back let me know...<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ian Bushrod said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/beams-upgrade-on-a-tiki21?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A80265&xg_source=activity#2195841Comment80265"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Mark</p>
<p>4x4x1/4 (100x100x6) it's sat…</p>
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<p>hi ian </p>
<p>thats very intresting... i am considering modding a bit more to accomadate different beams...maybe we could do deal ... if nothing else you could get some garden back let me know...<br/> <br/> <cite>Ian Bushrod said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/beams-upgrade-on-a-tiki21?commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A80265&xg_source=activity#2195841Comment80265"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Mark</p>
<p>4x4x1/4 (100x100x6) it's sat in my garden now! I bought from Blackburn metals. Price was about the same as a B pack resin and ply/timber but should be quicker to do. I would have drilled and tapped helicoils for the cleats using monel pop rivets or bolts for the ali angle platform ledges and trampoline lashing points, all bolts would have to be A4 stainless. I'm not convinced it's the way to go besides all the other mods needed it does'nt feel right aesthetically.</p>
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</blockquote> Hi Mark
4x4x1/4 (100x100x6) i…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-21:2195841:Comment:802652012-08-21T09:39:22.448ZIan Bushrodhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBushrod
<p>Hi Mark</p>
<p>4x4x1/4 (100x100x6) it's sat in my garden now! I bought from Blackburn metals. Price was about the same as a B pack resin and ply/timber but should be quicker to do. I would have drilled and tapped helicoils for the cleats using monel pop rivets or bolts for the ali angle platform ledges and trampoline lashing points, all bolts would have to be A4 stainless. I'm not convinced it's the way to go besides all the other mods needed it does'nt feel right…</p>
<p>Hi Mark</p>
<p>4x4x1/4 (100x100x6) it's sat in my garden now! I bought from Blackburn metals. Price was about the same as a B pack resin and ply/timber but should be quicker to do. I would have drilled and tapped helicoils for the cleats using monel pop rivets or bolts for the ali angle platform ledges and trampoline lashing points, all bolts would have to be A4 stainless. I'm not convinced it's the way to go besides all the other mods needed it does'nt feel right aesthetically.</p>
<p>Ian</p> hi rory
your boat looks modif…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-20:2195841:Comment:801762012-08-20T23:45:11.012ZMark Cosgrovehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/MarkCosgrove
<p>hi rory</p>
<p>your boat looks modififed is this your work if so how did yo go about it. plus good idea with beams thank you<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Rory McDougall said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/beams-upgrade-on-a-tiki21#2195841Comment80436"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>My wood beams on Cookie are now 21 years old and still going strong. Originally made of good quality ply and mahogany wood with lots of microfibers in the…</p>
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<p>hi rory</p>
<p>your boat looks modififed is this your work if so how did yo go about it. plus good idea with beams thank you<br/> <br/> <cite>Rory McDougall said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/beams-upgrade-on-a-tiki21#2195841Comment80436"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>My wood beams on Cookie are now 21 years old and still going strong. Originally made of good quality ply and mahogany wood with lots of microfibers in the fillets for better joint strength. My only drawback with them is that the H section with lots of compression chocks makes it a real pain for sanding and painting all the recessed areas. What I would do next time is build them as per plan and then add 6mm ply covers over front and back vertical faces to make smooth box-beams which can easily be epoxy sheathed. Then they will last indefinitely with proper upkeep of paint etc.</p>
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<p>Just a thought..............</p>
<p>Cheers Rory</p>
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</blockquote> hi ian
yes i have your old…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-20:2195841:Comment:801732012-08-20T23:42:57.448ZMark Cosgrovehttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/MarkCosgrove
<p>hi ian </p>
<p>yes i have your old tiki, you say rhs ali box what size and cost where you looking at also where would you be getting it from, interesting idea seems good one to me<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ian Bushrod said:</cite></p>
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<p>I think you have my old tiki and I was about to replace the beams with ali square box (RHS) which is why…</p>
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<p>hi ian </p>
<p>yes i have your old tiki, you say rhs ali box what size and cost where you looking at also where would you be getting it from, interesting idea seems good one to me<br/> <br/> <cite>Ian Bushrod said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/beams-upgrade-on-a-tiki21#2195841Comment80428"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I think you have my old tiki and I was about to replace the beams with ali square box (RHS) which is why the aft sockets have been cut as they are. The reason i chose RHS is given on page 5 of the old tiki forum at James Wharram designs, follow sticky; link. As you know further modifiations are required, i'll try and remember where I got to with these if it will help.If I had undercover space I would remake them using better quality/seaoned timber.</p>
<p>Ian </p>
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</blockquote> Talking the major specialized…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-19:2195841:Comment:802552012-08-19T22:42:04.570ZRogerio Martinhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RogerioMartin
<p>Talking the major specialized in Tiki21...my all respects</p>
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<p>Talking the major specialized in Tiki21...my all respects</p>
<p></p> Hi Mark,
My wood beams on Coo…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-19:2195841:Comment:804362012-08-19T21:27:29.468ZRory McDougallhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RoryMcDougall
<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>My wood beams on Cookie are now 21 years old and still going strong. Originally made of good quality ply and mahogany wood with lots of microfibers in the fillets for better joint strength. My only drawback with them is that the H section with lots of compression chocks makes it a real pain for sanding and painting all the recessed areas. What I would do next time is build them as per plan and then add 6mm ply covers over front and back vertical faces to make smooth box-beams…</p>
<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>My wood beams on Cookie are now 21 years old and still going strong. Originally made of good quality ply and mahogany wood with lots of microfibers in the fillets for better joint strength. My only drawback with them is that the H section with lots of compression chocks makes it a real pain for sanding and painting all the recessed areas. What I would do next time is build them as per plan and then add 6mm ply covers over front and back vertical faces to make smooth box-beams which can easily be epoxy sheathed. Then they will last indefinitely with proper upkeep of paint etc.</p>
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<p>Just a thought..............</p>
<p>Cheers Rory</p> Don't change. Wooden H-sectio…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-19:2195841:Comment:802512012-08-19T20:00:43.017ZRogerio Martinhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RogerioMartin
<p>Don't change. Wooden H-section is one masterpiece of engineering. But if you wanna make one test, replace frontbeam for one tube in the same diameter of your mast (4" ?) with 3mm wall (minimum). Uses T6061Alloy anodized. lashing like wood beam.</p>
<p>Don't change. Wooden H-section is one masterpiece of engineering. But if you wanna make one test, replace frontbeam for one tube in the same diameter of your mast (4" ?) with 3mm wall (minimum). Uses T6061Alloy anodized. lashing like wood beam.</p> Hi Mark,
I think you have my…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2012-08-19:2195841:Comment:804282012-08-19T09:37:55.541ZIan Bushrodhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/IanBushrod
<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I think you have my old tiki and I was about to replace the beams with ali square box (RHS) which is why the aft sockets have been cut as they are. The reason i chose RHS is given on page 5 of the old tiki forum at James Wharram designs, follow sticky; link. As you know further modifiations are required, i'll try and remember where I got to with these if it will help.If I had undercover space I would remake them using better quality/seaoned timber.</p>
<p>Ian </p>
<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I think you have my old tiki and I was about to replace the beams with ali square box (RHS) which is why the aft sockets have been cut as they are. The reason i chose RHS is given on page 5 of the old tiki forum at James Wharram designs, follow sticky; link. As you know further modifiations are required, i'll try and remember where I got to with these if it will help.If I had undercover space I would remake them using better quality/seaoned timber.</p>
<p>Ian </p>