Beam 3 - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T11:46:41Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/topics/beam-3?groupUrl=tiki31&commentId=2195841%3AComment%3A132258&xg_source=activity&groupId=2195841%3AGroup%3A5216&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Guys,
has anybody used the…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2017-08-14:2195841:Comment:1545022017-08-14T04:06:14.251ZPieterhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Pieter
<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>has anybody used the whip-staff arrangement on the Tiki 31 - if so which arrangement was used. I would like to used a steering butt cannot afford the yacht shop prices.</p>
<p>Thanks Pieter</p>
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<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>has anybody used the whip-staff arrangement on the Tiki 31 - if so which arrangement was used. I would like to used a steering butt cannot afford the yacht shop prices.</p>
<p>Thanks Pieter</p>
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<p></p> Hi Guys,
I think it should be…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-07-09:2195841:Comment:1322582015-07-09T06:16:09.804ZRichard Fruehmannhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/RichardFruehmann
<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>I think it should be noted that the shortened beam 3 no longer provides any structural support for the boat as a whole, i.e. it can neither support torsional loads nor bending loads. However, it can carry deck loads and almost certainly mast loads. (I have not tested the latter.) A comparison with the more lightly built Tiki 30 that has only 3 beams would suggest that three should be sufficient.</p>
<p>The point about checking for rot underneath the remaining supporting…</p>
<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>I think it should be noted that the shortened beam 3 no longer provides any structural support for the boat as a whole, i.e. it can neither support torsional loads nor bending loads. However, it can carry deck loads and almost certainly mast loads. (I have not tested the latter.) A comparison with the more lightly built Tiki 30 that has only 3 beams would suggest that three should be sufficient.</p>
<p>The point about checking for rot underneath the remaining supporting chocks is I think very important. I was lucky, only one beam chock had rot below it. The repair was not easy though, especially since I only noticed this towards the end of the restoration and had poor access to the area.</p>
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<p>Richard</p> Hi Ian thanks for getting bac…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-07-09:2195841:Comment:1323932015-07-09T05:41:56.098ZPieterhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Pieter
<p>Hi Ian thanks for getting back to me -</p>
<p>I have received a email from Richard as well indicating that beam 3 on the Tiki he used to have was shortened, which I think may be the way to go.</p>
<p>I agree there are quite a few water traps and will be looking at ways to remedy.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Hi Ian thanks for getting back to me -</p>
<p>I have received a email from Richard as well indicating that beam 3 on the Tiki he used to have was shortened, which I think may be the way to go.</p>
<p>I agree there are quite a few water traps and will be looking at ways to remedy.</p>
<p>cheers</p> Hello- ref Beam 3 and your re…tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2015-07-08:2195841:Comment:1322422015-07-08T13:05:59.326ZIanhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Ian516
<p>Hello- ref Beam 3 and your request for info. I have no experience of beam removals : my only thoughts about this which may be worth considering are regarding beam lashing points, blocks, reinforcement etc.</p>
<p>If you are taking out a beam there must be an increase (which could be more than a proportional increase) in the forces acting in these areas adjoining the remaining beams, so I would think that these would need to be redesigned accordingly.</p>
<p>If you have a lot of rot to cut…</p>
<p>Hello- ref Beam 3 and your request for info. I have no experience of beam removals : my only thoughts about this which may be worth considering are regarding beam lashing points, blocks, reinforcement etc.</p>
<p>If you are taking out a beam there must be an increase (which could be more than a proportional increase) in the forces acting in these areas adjoining the remaining beams, so I would think that these would need to be redesigned accordingly.</p>
<p>If you have a lot of rot to cut out that would indicate to me that you would need to take particular care.</p>
<p>On the Tiki 31 there are quite a few water traps and in these areas I have while building filleted or sheathed to both protect the substrate and also to provide falls for any water, including where there may be condensation.</p>
<p>The four Tiki 31 beams are enormously strong, and mine are sheathed also. I built two of them one Christmas in my front room at home with the heating turned up to max!</p>
<p>Good luck with your restoration -</p>
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