Sails and Rigs - Wharram Builders and Friends2024-03-29T12:28:53Zhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/forum/categories/sails-and-rigs/listForCategory?categoryId=2195841%3ACategory%3A9256&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTiki 38 aluminum masts use tabernacle & mast case same as wood mast?tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2023-07-17:2195841:Topic:2998522023-07-17T00:57:56.626ZAllen Boselyhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/AllenBosely
<p>When using aluminum masts on Tiki 38, is tabernacle and mast cast the same as when using wood masts?</p>
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<p>Or are aluminum masts stepped with metal base for masts?</p>
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<p>Actually would be for Narai MK IV with aluminum masts, Tiki style beams & lashings. But figured Tiki 38 has more examples of aluminum masts built.</p>
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<p>Cheers, Allen</p>
<p>When using aluminum masts on Tiki 38, is tabernacle and mast cast the same as when using wood masts?</p>
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<p>Or are aluminum masts stepped with metal base for masts?</p>
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<p>Actually would be for Narai MK IV with aluminum masts, Tiki style beams & lashings. But figured Tiki 38 has more examples of aluminum masts built.</p>
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<p>Cheers, Allen</p> TIKI 21 : measurements briddle length + mast raketag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2023-04-22:2195841:Topic:2983602023-04-22T16:57:34.597ZVincenthttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Vincent
<p>Could a Tiki 21 owner with a standard rig measure their bridle length for me ?</p>
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<p>(Context: I bought a '21 2nd hand, but it has a modified rigging with a furler attached to an extra beam... The plan set transferred to me by the owner appears to be incomplete -- with probably a missing measurement sheet or dimensions table...) The bridles in this modified set up are smaller than normal (at 1,30m can not join them midway), and laced on the extra beam. </p>
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<p>I wish to…</p>
<p>Could a Tiki 21 owner with a standard rig measure their bridle length for me ?</p>
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<p>(Context: I bought a '21 2nd hand, but it has a modified rigging with a furler attached to an extra beam... The plan set transferred to me by the owner appears to be incomplete -- with probably a missing measurement sheet or dimensions table...) The bridles in this modified set up are smaller than normal (at 1,30m can not join them midway), and laced on the extra beam. </p>
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<p>I wish to revert to the standard rig with no furler, and restore the original geometry.</p>
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<p>For this, the bridles length is essential, as it determines the height of the junction point with the forestay.</p>
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<p>As extra info, I would also appreciate some expression of the original mast rake. In my current setup, the mast is almost 90 degrees upright, but from parts of the drawings I do have with the plans, it looks like the top of the mast should lean somewhere between 0.30m and 0.5m aft ? </p>
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<p>PS: to avoid any misunderstanding: I have addressed a service request to JWD, mentioning I'm willing to pay for the service (but not ready to pay in full for the complete plans, which I assume is agreeable)... Anyway, no answer so far so I thought I'd just ask for help ;-)</p>
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<p></p> WINGSAIL rig - where to purchase - sails for tiki 26tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2023-04-13:2195841:Topic:2981682023-04-13T14:16:40.251ZPaul Bayshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/PaulBays
<p>Hello there</p>
<p>I just bought an old tiki 26 which I am restoring and I am thinking about the wingsail rig for the boat for the future.</p>
<p>Can someone please advise where it is possible to purchase the sails for the Wharram tiki 26 wing sail rig ( main sail and jib) many thanks for any answers.</p>
<p>Does anyone perhaps have some old ones for sail in good condition?</p>
<p>Please advise manufacturers and their websites if possible, thankyou</p>
<p>Hello there</p>
<p>I just bought an old tiki 26 which I am restoring and I am thinking about the wingsail rig for the boat for the future.</p>
<p>Can someone please advise where it is possible to purchase the sails for the Wharram tiki 26 wing sail rig ( main sail and jib) many thanks for any answers.</p>
<p>Does anyone perhaps have some old ones for sail in good condition?</p>
<p>Please advise manufacturers and their websites if possible, thankyou</p> Tiki 21 aluminium mast.tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2023-04-07:2195841:Topic:2981352023-04-07T22:08:25.674ZSilvestro Maggihttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/SilvestroMaggi
<p>Hello Everyone, a friend of mine gave me an aluminium mast and I was wondering if it s ok for my tiki 21. The mast is approximately 22feet high, 6cm wide and 2mm thick. My intention is to transform from the mast from a Marconi rigging to a Wharram rigging. <br/>What do you think?</p>
<p>Hello Everyone, a friend of mine gave me an aluminium mast and I was wondering if it s ok for my tiki 21. The mast is approximately 22feet high, 6cm wide and 2mm thick. My intention is to transform from the mast from a Marconi rigging to a Wharram rigging. <br/>What do you think?</p> Jeckells the Sailmakers | Site downtag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2023-01-18:2195841:Topic:2964692023-01-18T22:21:11.529ZOliver Knittelhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/OliverKnittel
<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xdj266r x126k92a"><div dir="auto">Hi all, I wanted to go to the website of…</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xdj266r x126k92a"><div dir="auto">Hi all, I wanted to go to the website of <span><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv x1fey0fg" href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeckells.co.uk%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1HwCYZDCiIgFkWMfDeNCf-MuaCPujRDlQiyLk-wE-HgStk9R2PftL-P00&h=AT1mtw0gojGYjEIA810H5gwCJYIxN8Q0MmGV89H8DWm8DySWP8Khbl8Qcdb_PAQLTOUp_grsKz1yVuegzhdwD0xJZUUCBL6lvKWfbNtSK7_-DnpcRXor_3R-CShNwq1biA&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT037Y-IJ1cYE87u0Und3hfwwaXEpJr8hXBoyfXuPMlN6o3Am9P18B5RkW3wgF1IDZI43OxEgmLSLtmLWmVPbQHBtdk5DHYE5811aUcciGJLxGYfc1HYnSZjh8c7B98NljqC_kt_EtTE46K6r4GQLHRGwzvF3tGZEQTdY78" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.jeckells.co.uk/</a></span> the sailmaker of Wharram Catamarans. Had sent an email in December and received no reply. Now I can't get to the website anymore. Does anyone know something more specific?</div>
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<div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a"><div dir="auto">Thank you and best regards Oli</div>
</div> WINGSAIL ON A PAHI 42 AS A TIKI SHOONER RIGtag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2023-01-18:2195841:Topic:2965362023-01-18T22:19:10.294ZOliver Knittelhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/OliverKnittel
<p><span>Hello all,</span><br></br><span>I have exactly this rig design of Amate a Pahi 42, but since I bought the boat used and the seller was unfortunately not an honest person, I did not get a rig plan despite agree. I would like to know where the attachment points etc. are. I also have problems with the sail when reefing.</span><br></br><br></br><span>I can't take any pictures right now as we have completely disassembled the boat to make repairs. Old pictures with the sails I have of…</span></p>
<p><span>Hello all,</span><br/><span>I have exactly this rig design of Amate a Pahi 42, but since I bought the boat used and the seller was unfortunately not an honest person, I did not get a rig plan despite agree. I would like to know where the attachment points etc. are. I also have problems with the sail when reefing.</span><br/><br/><span>I can't take any pictures right now as we have completely disassembled the boat to make repairs. Old pictures with the sails I have of course.</span><br/><br/><span>I would be very happy if someone could help me gladly also PM.</span><br/><br/><span>Thanks in advance for your help Oli</span></p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10944674065?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10944674065?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> Vertical Gin Pole For Mast Steppingtag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2023-01-11:2195841:Topic:2963742023-01-11T20:08:44.277ZNeilRhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/NeilRogers
<p>I recently came across this interesting method of raising and lowering a mast short/single handed and thought I might share with the forum.</p>
<p>It's a paid member site but there is enough of the video offered for free to get the principals involved.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.offcenterharbor.com/videos/stepping-mast-gin-pole/">https://www.offcenterharbor.com/videos/stepping-mast-gin-pole/</a></p>
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<p>I recently came across this interesting method of raising and lowering a mast short/single handed and thought I might share with the forum.</p>
<p>It's a paid member site but there is enough of the video offered for free to get the principals involved.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.offcenterharbor.com/videos/stepping-mast-gin-pole/">https://www.offcenterharbor.com/videos/stepping-mast-gin-pole/</a></p>
<p></p> Autumn Black Sea sailing, and why I don't like Bermudas.....tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2022-11-19:2195841:Topic:2955472022-11-19T07:01:21.708Zrael dobkinshttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/raeldobkins
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<p>I'm Just not racing.....</p>
<p>Keep Shunting,</p>
<p>Balkan Shipyards</p>
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<p><a href="https://youtu.be/5vVy_q6QngE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://youtu.be/5vVy_q6QngE</a></p>
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<p>I'm Just not racing.....</p>
<p>Keep Shunting,</p>
<p>Balkan Shipyards</p>
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<p><a href="https://youtu.be/5vVy_q6QngE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://youtu.be/5vVy_q6QngE</a></p> staysailtag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2022-05-17:2195841:Topic:2932332022-05-17T13:56:04.926ZMichael http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/Michael612
<p>Feel the need of bigger sail, than original staysail. Idea to add a genoa with 24m2 and option of a gennaker with 56m2. To add this need to instal an extension and would like to know if this something that has been done before? Our boat a Tiki38</p>
<p>Feel the need of bigger sail, than original staysail. Idea to add a genoa with 24m2 and option of a gennaker with 56m2. To add this need to instal an extension and would like to know if this something that has been done before? Our boat a Tiki38</p> Double forestay: cutter, solent or side by side?tag:wharrambuilders.ning.com,2022-04-05:2195841:Topic:2930672022-04-05T08:27:47.335ZPanu Väänänenhttp://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profile/PanuVaeaenaenen
<p>I sail with my dad on his Tiki 31 with the Wharram wingsail schooner rig (headsail, mainsail, mizzen). When I was a kid, he had a small catamaran with a double forestay. The stays were side by side. We've talked about having a similar installation on the Tiki as well.</p>
<p>Later this spring I'm going to crew a Tanenui with a cutter rig. Therefore I studied sailing with the running backstays and wandered to read about double forestays, mostly about cutter rigs and solent rigs. <strong>And…</strong></p>
<p>I sail with my dad on his Tiki 31 with the Wharram wingsail schooner rig (headsail, mainsail, mizzen). When I was a kid, he had a small catamaran with a double forestay. The stays were side by side. We've talked about having a similar installation on the Tiki as well.</p>
<p>Later this spring I'm going to crew a Tanenui with a cutter rig. Therefore I studied sailing with the running backstays and wandered to read about double forestays, mostly about cutter rigs and solent rigs. <strong>And now I hear that the side by side arrangement was a 70's thing that doesn't work and has been buried a long ago.</strong></p>
<p><strong>What's the reason for this?</strong> Someone suggested that you can't have side by side forestays with a jib furler (which we don't have). But I guess dividing the mast tension between the two stays is a factor, as probably is the aerodynamics, too.</p>
<p>A solent rig (with removable solent stay) seems to be everybody's favorite for a double forestay. It would be possible with a wingsail (unlike a cutter rig), but you can't tack your jib through the narrow split between the two stays. Therefore it seems to be for furling jibs only, or for trade wind sailing with very little tacking.</p>
<p>I don't know if we actually need a second forestay. I have no idea if two headsails (a jib and a staysail) with a solent rig would have a positive effect on sailing a Tiki. It would be nice to be able to hank on a storm jib before you actually need it, though. I suppose for that there could be a removable second forestay (Dyneema?), but would it have negative effects on the mast tension or something?</p>